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PUB LIST PUBLIC HOUSES Paul Skelton

Earliest 1679

(Name from)

Black Horse Hotel

Latest 1997

(Name to)

36 High Street

192 Lower Street before 1874 & Pigot's Directory 1823Pigot's Directory 1839Bagshaw's Directory 1847Post Office Directory 1874

Deal

Black Horse circa 1860

Black Horse circa 1860. Broad Street on the right hadn't been widened and was just an alley. Kindly supplied by Trevor Hatton.

Black Horse 1905

Above postcard, circa 1905, kindly sent by Rory Kehoe.

Black Horse, Deal

Above photo, circa 1905. Kindly supplied by Sue Solley.

Black Horse 1911

Above postcard, Coronation day, 22 June 1911. Kindly sent by Rory Kehoe.

Black Horse, Del

Above pictures of the Black Horse Hotel, dates unknown, kindly supplied by Sue Solley.

Black Horse circa 1970

Above photo shows the Black Horse circa 1970.

From the Kentish Post or Canterbury News-Letter, February 18-21, 1756. Kindly sent from Alec Hasenson.

Notice: “To be Lett at Lady-Day, the Sign of the Black Horse by the Market Place in Deal, being many years a Public House and now in the occupation of Edward White.

 

From the Kentish Gazette, 17 February, 1773. Price 1½d.

To be sold to the highest bidder.

At the “Black Horse,” in Deal. On Friday, the 19th of February, at Four o'clock in the Afternoon.

A CUTTER, about forty Tons Burthen, thirty-six feet long, named the WOLF, with all Materials, a prime Sailer, well found, in good condition, and fit for Sea.

For further Particulars, enquire of Messrs. Bailey and Mackesson in Deal.

 

From the Kentish Gazette, 17 October 1778.

Deal, October 12th, 1778. To be sold.

All that substantial, well built brick dwelling house, sashed, with the Brewhouse, Malthouse, several Storehouse, and other Buildings and Appurtenances thereunto belonging, all in good Repair, and extremely well planned for carrying on the Business of a Brewer and Maltster, situate and being in Deal, and now in the occupation of Mr. W. Friend; together with the two following long-established and good accustomed public houses, viz.

All that well built dwelling house called the "Black Horse," with a small Tenament adjoining thereto, and the Outhousers, Stables, Yards and Appurtenances thereunto belonging, situate and being in the Lower Street in Deal aforesaid, and now in the several Occupations of Mr. Dennis Pilcher, and the Widow Ratley.

And all that Dwelling House called the "Hamburg Ensign," with the Outhousers, Yard and Appurtenances thereunto belonging, situated and being in the Beach Street in Deal aforesaid, and now in the Occupation of Mr. Benjamin Parker.

And also those two Tenaments or Dwelling houses, with the Yards and Appurtenances to them respectively belonging, situate and being in the Lower Street in Deal aforesaid, and now in the several Occupations of William Wiles and Thomas Morris.

 

Kentish Weekly Post or Canterbury Journal 27 October 1835.

DIED.

Oct. 21, Mrs. Barton, wife of Mr. Richard Barton, many years of the "Black Horse Inn," Deal.

 

From the Dover Telegraph and Cinque Ports Advertiser, 6 January, 1849.

John Gilbert otherwise Kilbourne, 21, grocer, was indicted for stealing, at Dover, one pair of shoes, the property of John Goodfellow, ostler. Mr. Smith prosecuting.

John Goodfellow deposed that he saw the shoes in the Antwerp stables on Friday, the 27th October, and next saw them in Deal the following Sunday.

William Lewis, fellow servant with last witness, deposed that in consequence of suspicions that prisoner had stolen the shoes, who left the Antwerp stables with his master on Saturday, the 28th, for Deal, he accompanied prosecutor to Deal in search of the prisoner, and witness found him in the "Black Horse" Inn, with shoes belonging to Goodfellow upon his feet. Prisoner was then given into custody of the police. He admitted to the policeman that he had brought them from Dover, but it was by mistake, and he intended to return them.

Prisoner made the same defence as that stated by last witness.

The jury found the prisoner guilty, and he was sentenced to 1 days imprisonment.

 

From an email received 13 November, 2010.

I have an ancestor who married a Wanley HOLTON in 1866. His father is given as Wanley HOLTON, publican - deceased.

A Wanley HOLTON dies in Deal in 1865, BUT is this the same Wanley HOLTON who apparently sells the "Black Horse" in Deal in 1869?

In 1851. Wanley Holton (age 60), a Licensed Victualler is living at 192 Lower Street, Deal. There's no mention of a pub of any name in the census, just house numbers. I think this must be one 'Black Horse' as in the 1861 Census, 192 Lower Street is the Black Horse Hotel with Hotel Proprietor Walter G Smith. There's no sign of Wanley there and I haven't found him anywhere else yet! It's a case of 'watch this space.........'

Jan Paton

 

South Eastern Gazette 20 January 1857.

KENT COUNTY COURT - MAIDSTONE. INSOLVENTS.

At this Court, held yesterday:-

Wanley Holton, formerly of the Saint Alban's Court Farm, Nonington, near Wingham, farmer; then of the "Black Horse," Lower-street, Deal, licensed victualler; and then and late of the "Dog and Bear," Lenham, out of business or employment.

Adjourned to the 26th inst.

 

Kentish Chronicle, 28 April 1860.

DEATHS.

April 17, at the "Black Horse Hotel, "Lower Street, Henry Charles, son of W. G. Smith, late of Croom's Hill, Greenwich, in his 10th year.

 

From the Deal, Walmer and Sandwich Telegraph, 18 July, 1860. Advert.

Auction of property at "Black Horse Inn."

 

From the Deal, Walmer & District and Kingsdown Telegraph, 1 January, 1863.

Sale at "Black Horse" - Freehold house & butchers in Lower Street at corner of Duke Street. Slaughter house in Duke Street contiguous. Sold for £350 (formerly the property of J. Knoll Parker).

 

From the Deal, Walmer & District and Kingsdown Telegraph, 11 April, 1863.

Dinner held at "Black Horse" of Deal Pier Coy.

 

From the Deal, Walmer, and Sandwich Mercury, 26 July, 1873.

DRUNK

Joseph F. Slade and Eliza Slade, visitors, Margate, were charged with being drunk in Deal on the previous day and incapable of taking care of a pony and carriage of which they had charge.

Supt. Parker said: Yesterday about noon I saw a bob collecting near the "Black Horse Hotel," and went to see what was the matter. On getting there I found the defendants standing beside a pony and carriage up the Black Horse Alley. There were various complaints as to defendants' being unable to take care of the trap, and they were both drunk. I took them into custody, and put the pony in the stables at the "Rose Inn."

Mr. J. T. Woodruff said he was standing outside his shop and noticed the defendants turn from Queen Street into Lower Street, in a pony and trap. When they got opposite to where they were standing he noticed that the female defendant sitting in the bottom of the cart, apparently very drunk. The male prisoner sometimes had hold of the reigns and sometimes not, and he sometimes had his legs over the side of the vehicle. He was driving in a very careless and dangerous manner, but the pony was fortunately a very quiet one. Several people remarked that it was a pity no policeman could be seen for the moment, as the defendants were certainly not fit to have charge of a pony.

The male defendant had no question to ask either of the Superintendent, or of Mr. Woodruff, while the woman remarked that she would not condescend to ask any questions.

In defence the male defendant said they went out about five o'clock the previous morning, and got drinking with some sailors. After staying at Broadstairs sometime, they came on to Deal.

The woman, whose appearance indicated that she was no stranger to strong drink, said: Of course we are sorry for what has occurred, but it is quite an accident. We came out for a day's pleasure and met some friends at Broadstairs and got rather tight. We took more care of the pony than we did of ourselves. We took a great deal of care of the pony. I have seen the pony ten times this morning, and he is not injured at all. Nor are we that I know of, only we shall have to pay, that's all. If it had not been for a butcher, we should not have been taken up.

The Mayor said the defendants had placed themselves in a very disgraceful position, and had it not been for the kindness of Mr. Woodruff and the police a very serious accident might have happened either to the defendants or others. The Magistrates don't think the female defendant is absolutely sober now.

The woman (impudently): Don't they.

The Mayor: And to mark their sense of the offence each of the defendants will be fined 20s., and also the costs 9s. or in default they will go for 14 days' hard labour.

The woman: Very likely we are going to have 14 days' imprisonment. I think it is very hard.

The money was paid.

 

From the Deal, Walmer, Sandwich & East Kent Mercury, September, 1933.

Mrs Emily Kingsland was successful in her application for the transfer to her of the licence of the "Black Horse" Inn, Strand Street, Sandwich, previously held by her husband, the late Mr John Kingsland.

 

 

An outlet of Davy & Co. in 1974. Library archives 1974

Pre 1743 this pub used to be called the "Dolphin," although I have reference to a "Dolphin" in existence in 1776, so if they are one and the same, the change of name may have been after this year. Unless of course it was Edward White who changed the name the same time as he took over the pub in 1776.

Again changed name to the "Strand" after closure in 1997.

 

From the East Kent Mercury, 22 October, 1998.

WORK STARTS ON FORMER HOTEL

WORKMEN have moved into the empty "BIack Horse" building in Deal High Street, due to reopen as "The Strand."

Kevin Heath, of Jays Leisure Group, based in Bench Street, Dover, appeared before  a district council licensing sub-committee on Thursday to apply for a public entertainment  licence for the new business venture.

The ground floor of the former hotel is being converted and council officers had no objections to the licence being granted.

SIMILAR LICENCE

Mr Heath plans to open "The Strand" from 11am to 11pm Monday and Tuesday, stay open until midnight Wednesday to Saturday and from noon to 10.30pm on Sundays.

The committee was told be already had a similar licence for "Jays Wine Bar" in Bench Street, Dover, and he said the new business would be a traditional pub during the day, with entertainment provided in the evenings from Wednesdays to Saturdays.

 

From the Dover Express, 4 December, 2008. 55p

PUB PLANS

CHANGES at the "Black Horse" pub in Deal's High Street have been planned by developer Jimmy Godden.

He asked Dover District Council for permission to change the use of the ground floor of the premises into a restaurant and a retail shop. He is also seeking approval to install two new shop fronts at the building.

 

 

LICENSEE LIST

WHITE Edward 1756+

PILCHER Dennis to 1778

BARTON Richard 1780-1831+ Pigot's Directory 1823Pigot's Directory 1828-29Deal Licensing Register

BAX William 1830-45 (age 60 in 1841Census) Pigot's Directory 1832-34Pigot's Directory 1839Pigot's Directory 1840

HOLTON Wanley Next pub licensee had 1847-51+ Bagshaw's Directory 1847 (65 dec'd Dover Telegraph) (age 60 in 1851Census)

SMITH Walter J George 1858-62+ (age 46 in 1861Census) Melville's 1858Kelly's 1862

OUTWIN J T & Co 1870 (owners)

PUNNETT Mr J S to Jan/1873 Deal Mercury

PUNNETT Mrs Emily Jan/1873-74+ Deal MercuryKelly's 1874Post Office Directory 1874

SPURRIER Henry 1881-84 Next pub licensee had (age 36 in 1881Census) Post Office Directory 1882

BANFIELD Alfred Ernest 1891+ (age 32 in 1891Census) Post Office Directory 1891

SPICER John Edward 1899+ Kelly's 1899

RICHARDSON Edwin David 1911+

KINGSLAND John to Sept/1933

KINGSLAND Emily Sept/1933+

DAVY John S V & BUNYAN James C 1974 Library archives 1974

http://pubshistory.com/BlackHorseHotell.shtml

 

Pigot's Directory 1823From the Pigot's Directory 1823

Pigot's Directory 1839From the Pigot's Directory 1839

Pigot's Directory 1840From the Pigot's Directory 1840

Bagshaw's Directory 1847From Bagshaw Directory 1847

Melville's 1858From Melville's Directory 1858

Kelly's 1862From the Kelly's Directory 1862

Post Office Directory 1874From the Post Office Directory 1874

Kelly's 1874From the Kelly's Directory 1874

Post Office Directory 1882From the Post Office Directory 1882

Post Office Directory 1891From the Post Office Directory 1891

Kelly's 1899From the Kelly's Directory 1899

Library archives 1974Library archives 1974

Deal Licensing RegisterDeal Licensing Register

Deal MercuryFrom the Deal Walmer & Sandwich Mercury

 

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