41 Hartley Street (Mount Pleasant)
Bowling Green date unknown.
From the Dover Mercury 8 February 2001.
Drink to the Duchess
PICTURES of pubs featured in Those Were The Days recently has brought to
light intriguing facts by local author and historian Barry Smith.
Mr Smith of Glenfield Road, Dover, has written By the Way, an account of
the hostelries of Dover down the centuries, available in East Kent
One showed the Duchess of Kent in the Market Square presumably named in
honour of Queen Victoria's mother and Mr Smith reveals that in 1690, the
Butchers Arms occupied the site. "It still traded under that sign until
1822 but was re-fronted about that time," he says.
"The Duchess of Kent sign was adopted in 1835. It showed the Duchess, apparently wearing a turban. I think there must be a story there.
certainly visited the town that year but the Ship Hotel catered for her
needs - there was also a Duchess of Kent eating house in 1838."
You could down a pub pint at
three in the morning, a privilege renewed in 1874 and 1900.
of 1914 banned the sale of alcohol after 9 pm, only the Duchess, the Walmer Castle and buffets at the town and harbour stations were
Time was called in 1962, reopening with the Walmer Castle as a
single ale house called the Elephant & Hind to
commemorate the trademarks of the two breweries.
And our other picture shows the Bowling Green. Tavern, its origins
possibly dating back to 1805, which closed in 1937 when the area was
demolished for redevelopment.
The site, formerly Hartley's Meadow still remains vacant and Mr Smith
says brickwork still shows where homes were built into the bank itself.
Bowling Green circa 1930. Next door was A. E. Clarks General Shop.
From the Dover Telegraph and Cinque Ports General
Advertiser, Saturday 11 February, 1837.
DOVER POLICE COURT
Mary Ann Gosby, aged 19; and Mary Ann Horn, aged 27 years, pleaded
guilty of stealing a sheet, the property of Nathaniel Beeching, at the
"Bowling Green Tavern." Horn, who had been before convicted, an received
the mercy of the court, as sentenced to six months', and Gosby to one
month's imprisonment, each to be kept to hard labour; and it was
intimated to them, that if they again appeared before the court, they
would be sent out of the country.
A "Bowling Green House", addressed Military Road, was reported as trading
in 1823 and shows up again in Pigot's Directory 1832-33-34 & 39 although this
time just referred to as Bowling Green.
It also shows up as being a "Bowling Green Tavern," Military Road in
1862, but was not granted a licence as the landlord was dead. Mount Pleasant
runs from Military Road to Hartley Street, so this is definitely in the
From the Dover Express and East Kent Intelligencer, 11
An application for a new licence to the "Bowling Green" tavern,
Military Road, was refused, it appeared that the late landlord was dead. It was ordered that another application should be made in the
presence or the representatives of the deceased landlord, in March next.
At this time, I do not know when the licence was lost, certainly before
A fully licensed Fremlin pub on the corner with Durham Hill. Certainly
there in 1842 and there is evidence of Harry Marsh keeping another with this
sign in 1805.
From the Dover Express and East Kent Intelligencer,
29 April, 1865. Price 1d.
Richard William Leamington, a private in the 2nd Battalion 60th
Rifles, was charged on suspicion of having assaulted Mrs. Burton, the
landlady of the "Bowling Green Tavern," and robbing the till; but Mrs.
Burton was unable to identify the prisoner as one of the soldiers who
had assaulted her, and there was no evidence that he was in the house,
although he was found by the police near to it. The Magistrates
dismissed the man, whose sergeant gave him a very good character.
From the Dover Express and East Kent
News, Friday 26 February, 1869.
A VIOLENT CUSTOMER
John Wilson was charged with wilfully breaking a wine glass,
value four-pence, and also with threatening to stab the landlord of the
"Bowling Green Tavern," on the previous night.
William Davis said: I am landlord of the "Bowling Green Tavern,"
Durham Hill. The defendant came into my house about half-past eleven
last night, and asked for some refreshment, and I supplied him with two
glasses of rum. There was a young woman in the room, and he asked her to
drink with him, but she refused. he asked her a second time and she
still refused, and he then took the glass and threw it down upon the
hearth one and broke it. I then left him in the room and went in search
of a policeman. On my return, I again entered the room, and the
defendant asked me to serve him with more rum, but I declined to do so.
He then used some very foul and threatening language towards me.
The defendant said he did not consider the value of the glass so much
as the complainant had demanded, and he had therefore refused to pay
that amount. He also said he did not break it wilfully. He also alleged
that there were several woman of the town in the house at the time.
The Magistrates told the defendant that he must pay the value of the
glass (4d.) and 2s. for the hearing, which he did.
From the Dover Express and East Kent
News, Friday 30 April, 1869.
A SOLDIER IN TROUBLE
John Frederick brown, a private belonging to the 1st Battalion of the
4th King's Own Royal Regiment, now attached in this garrison, was
charged with attempting to rob the till in the bar of the "Bowling Green
Tavern," Military Road.
William Davis said: I am the keeper of the "Bowling Green Tavern."
last night the prisoner was in the back sitting room of my house. He was
there for about ten minutes. I afterwards saw him in the bar near to the
counter with the till open and his hand in it. The till is in the recess
near the counter. I am certain the till had not been left open. I am not
aware how much money there was in the till. When i saw the prisoner I
went to him and touched him on the shoulder, asking him what he was
doing, when he said something about a light.
By the prisoner: I am certain there was some money in the till.
Examination continued: I told prisoner I should take him outside,
which I did, and seeing a policeman I gave him into custody for
attempting to rob the till. I know there were some coppers in the till
because I saw them there when prisoner took his hand out. I should think
there were about a shilling's worth.
The prisoner desired to be dealt with at once; but pleaded not
guilty. In his defence he said that he was in the prosecutor's house on
the previous evening with another soldier, playing cribbage. he also
played a game of cribbage with the prosecutor and his wife. he had one
pint of beer, and asked prosecutor for a pipe; but he made him no reply.
he then went into the bar, and seeing the drawer, thinking it contained
the pipes, opened it. The prosecutor came up to him, and touched him on
the shoulder asking him what he was doing there. Prisoner told him that
he was looking for a pipe. he did not know that the prosecutor was deaf.
He had no intention of stealing the money from the till.
The policeman said that on searching the prisoner at his
station-house 1¼d. was all the money that was found
In reply to the Magistrates, Lieutenant Macleod,
the officer in command of the company to which prisoner belonged, said
that he bore a bad character in the regiment, but that this was the
first offence for which he had been brought before the Magistrates.
The Magistrates stated that there was some doubt
in their minds as to the prisoner's intention, and they would therefore
give him the benefit of that doubt and dismiss him; but recommended him
to be careful for the future.
From the Dover Express and East Kent
News, Friday 21 May, 1869.
REMANDED CHARGE OF UNLAWFULLY ENTERING
George File and George Mason, two soldiers of the 17th brigade Royal
Artillery, stationed in this garrison, were brought up on remand from
the previous Monday, charged with unlawfully entering the parish church
of St. James on Sunday, May 9th, or earlier on the following morning,
and stealing there from the contents of the alms box and one shilling
and nine pence in stamps; also with having entered St. Paul's Roman
Catholic Church and stealing the contents of the alms boxes, two
candlesticks, and a cruet stand.
Mr. Thomas Fox appeared on behalf of the Churchwardens of St. James's
in support of the prosecution; and the charge of unlawfully entering St.
James's Church being first proceeded with, the following evidence was
Richard Moore: I am a verger employed at St. James's Church. It is
part of my duty, after service is over, to close the church and lock the
door. There was service in the church on Sunday, the 9th May. After
service I locked up the church, and before doing so I noticed that
everything was all right. I always enter the vestry after the service
is ended and see that all there is safe. I am certain the alms boxes
were all right and locked. I noticed nothing unusual that night. I
locked the door at half-past eight, and took the key to one of the
churchwardens, Mr. Kemp. There are two chairs in the vestry covered with
Police-constable Ash: I was on duty on Maison Dieu Road, on Saturday
night week, near St. James's Church. it is my duty to try the doors of
St. James's Church. I tried the doors at a quarter after eleven on that
night, and found they were fastened.
Police-constable Corrie: I was on duty on Maison Dieu Road at
half-past twelve on Sunday night week, and saw the two prisoners coming
from the direction of St. James's Church. I said to them, "It is a wet
night," and one of them replied, "Yes." I saw them go up Peter Stree,
and subsequently saw them in Biggin Street.
By the Bench: It is not customary to ask soldiers in this garrison
for their passes.
Daniel Coveney, a carpenter, said: I had occasion to go to St.
James's Church on Monday morning last, at half-past six. When I got
there I found all the doors locked, and went to the house of Mr. Kemp,
who is one of the churchwardens, for the key. I unlocked the door, and
on entering the church, the first thing attracting my attention was the
alms box, which is placed against the wall near the font. I perceived
that it had been broken open. The top had been prized off, and the front
very much damaged. There were two of Hobday's three-inch locks on the
box. The size of it is about ten inches by six inches. The only things
left in the box were and piece of brass and two screws. It bore several
marks made by a chisel. I am certain the marks were made by a chisel. A
clasp knife would not make much indentation. I went to the vestry after
I had discovered the box had been broken open, and found the doors
standing open. I know it is usual to keep the doors of the vestry shut.
There are two chairs covered with velvet in the vestry. I entered the
vestry, and examined the lock of the door, and found that it had been
prized on one side so as to let the lock pass freely. i noticed that
several things were lying about the floor, and that a window was broken.
There are three doors in the vestry, one leading into the chancel, one
immediately opposite to the chancel door, leading out into the
churchyard, and one that leads into a lobby which communicates with the
church and the yard. There are two windows in the vestry. The bottom
part of the window on the north side was broken open. there are some
upright bars to one of the windows, but there are no bars to the other.
The one without the bars has a ventilator, and was broken open at the
bottom. The piece broken was about fourteen inches by eleven inches. The
glass of the window is very thick, and is Warwick glass. Some of the
lead work was pushed in, and it had the appearance of having been broken
outside. I saw some glass lying on the floor of the vestry, and some
outside. There was also some lead lying outside. I noticed a foot-print
on one of the chairs. It was a dirty mark, as if the foot had been in
the dirt. I afterwards compared a military boot with it in the presence
of Stevens. I placed the boot on the chair, and afterwards measured the
boot, and found it to correspond in every way with the mark on the
chair. The boot produced is the same. The mark of the heel-clip was on
the chair. I noticed a drop of blood on the wall near the fire-place,
and two more drops on a box. I found that the drawer belonging to the
table had been opened. The boots and clothes were lying about the vestry
as if they had been disturbed. I went outside the door, and found the
slip of wood now produced lying on the ground. The piece of wood belongs
to the framework of the door. I went to the station-house, and reported
the facts to superintendent Coram.
By the Bench: The sill of the window is about 3 feet 6 inches from
Police-sergeant Stevens said: In consequence of information received
at the station-house on Monday morning last, I went to St. James's
Church at half-past seven. I found the last witness there. I examined
the church and found that the vestry window had been broken open. I
found some glass lying inside the vestry, and some outside, and some on
the stone sill of the window. I have heard the evidence of the last
witness with regard to that window, and I found it in the same state as
he has described it. I found a chair in the vestry covered with velvet.
There was an impression of a boot upon the cushion of that chair. The
heel of the boot showed three nails in a clip. We measured the
marks and found them to correspond with those on the boot. We measured
the length of the boot, the length of the tread, the length of the heel,
and the length between the heel and the mark of the tread, and they all
corresponded with the mark on the cushion. I also compared the distance
between the nails on the boot and marks on the chair, and found them to
correspond. I examined the mark on the heel where it was worn away more
than the other part, and found it corresponded with that on the chair.
The impression was wanting in that particular spot. The impression was
made by a left foot. I produce a sketch I made of the mark of the heel
on the chair. The boot was taken from the prisoner Mason, and it is a
military boot. It has the regimental number, "17th V.R.A.. 1310, 68."
The prisoner was wearing the boot at the time I took him into custody. I
notice some drops of blood in the vestry, one on the wall and the two
others on a box. There were some foot marks on the box and they
corresponded with the foot-marks on the chair. there were some
footprints outside leading up to the window that was broken, and I
compared the boot taken from the prisoner File and the one taken from
the prisoner Mason and they both corresponded with these marks. The
boots taken from the prisoner File are also military boots, and have
regimental numbers. The soil outside the window is very soft and is
covered with beach. The Sunday night being a very wet night, the foot
prints were made very visibly. the footprints came in both directions. I
did not trace the footprints. I and sergeant Bailey afterward
apprehended the prisoners at the "Bowling Green Tavern" at ten o'clock.
I noticed that the prisoner File had his finger tied up with a piece of
rag. I also noticed the pocket-handkerchief which he had had some fresh
drops of blood upon it. On taking the prisoners into custody and telling
them the charge one of them remarked that I must be
"joking." I then repeated it again, and took them to the police-station.
At the station-house I searched mason, and found upon him two
shillings, two sixpences, and three half-pennies. Both the prisoners
wore tunics, and wore orderly dresses. The Superintendent read the
charge over to them and Mason said, "Yes." The Superintendent said one
alms box , and when I reminded him that there were three, Mason said
again, "Yes." I said nothing to File about his finger.
By the Bench: The cushion of the chair is soft. I did not try what
impression I could make on the chair. I should say that the cushion of
the chair is filled with horse-hair. A dry boot would not make a mark;
but a wet one would.
Bt the prisoner File: There are five nails in the heel of the boot
and there is an impression of only three on the cushion of the chair.
The handkerchief was wet with blood.
police-sergeant Bailey said: I assisted the last witness in
apprehending the two prisoners, on Monday morning last, at ten o'clock,
at the "Bowling Green Tavern," and removed them to the police-station. I
searched File and found on him four shillings, a sixpence, and five
half-pence in money, a key, some matches , and a pocket handkerchief,
with some marks of blood upon it, all of which I now produce. File's
fore-finger on the left hand, near the knuckle was cut. I asked him how
it became cut, and he replied, "I shall have you there, I have lots of
witnesses to prove that I got that in cutting up the duff." I looked at
him, and then he laughed and said, "While we were having dinner."
Richard Chard, the landlord of the "Laurel
Tree" public-house, said: The prisoners came into my house at
half-past six on the morning of Monday last and called for a pot of
porter. UI gave them a pint apiece, and one of them paid me with a
four-penny piece. They asked if they could have a wash, and clean
themselves up, and i told them they could. They then took their tunics
off. the prisoner File asked me if I could dry his coat, as it was very
wet, saying that he had just come from Deal, about seven miles away from
Dover. I took the tunic and felt it; but it was not very wet. I asked if
I should put mason's down to dry, but he said that his was not wet.
There was a man in the kitchen who lodges at my house, and they asked
him to black their boots and brush their trousers for them, which he
did, and they each gave him two-pence. Mason asked me if I knew where he
could sell some old silver, and I said i did not. My lodger then said
that Murden, in Snargate Street, would buy old silver. File said he knew
where the place was very well. After they had done washing they wanted
to play a game of cards; but I told them I could not allow them to play
in my house, and i also said that, as they had had a wash, they had
better go away. The only money I saw them have was a four-penny-piece
they gave for the beer. They left my house at half-past seven.
Joseph mead said: I lodge at the "Laurel
Tree" public-house, Priory Street. I was there at half-past
six on Monday morning last, and saw the two prisoners. I cleaned their
boots, for which they each gave me two-pence. The boots were very wet. I
saw that one of File's fingers was bound up with a piece of rag. I asked
him if anything was the matter with the finger, and he said , "Yes."
Mason asked me where he could sell some old silver, and I mentioned Mr.
Murden's in Snargate Street. File said he knew where that was very well.
They left the house at half-past seven.
By the Bench: I am sure the prisoners are the same men.
William Davis, the landlord of the "Bowling Green Tavern," said: The
two prisoners came to my house on Monday morning last, at a quarter past
nine. I asked File what he was doing out so early in the morning, and he
said he had a day's holiday and was going to Folkestone. I noticed
File had cut his finger and asked him how he had done it. he said he had
cut it while cutting up the "duff" at the barracks on Sunday. I offered
to dress it for him and tied it up with some palm oil and rag. It did
not look like it had been cut with a knife. It looked more jagged, and
as if it had been done only a short time before. The cut was not
bleeding at the time. There was only a little blood on the rag.
Mr. John Walter, the gaol surgeon, said: I examined the prisoner File
in gaol on Monday morning last at twelve o'clock. I found a scratch on
the left thumb, a cut on the left fore finger, and a scratch on the back
of the left hand. the cut and scratches looked as if they had been made
by a rough and sharp instrument. They were such as would be produced by
broken glass. They are not such as would be caused by a knife.
John Reynolds said: I am a gunner in the 17th Brigade Royal
Artillery, stationed in this garrison. I know the two prisoners at the
bar; and they are gunners belonging to my battery. I was in a
public-house with Mason on Saturday evening, the 8th of May. I did not
stand any beer; but as he passed me to go out, I followed him, and asked
him if he wanted the price of a pint of beer; at the same time giving
him four-pence, and telling him that I had plenty of money, but that I
knew he had not any. I saw him again on Sunday morning before going to
church, when he brushed my clothes. I also saw him in the afternoon
after dinner at half-past one, when he told me that I would not have
been where he was on the previous night for £5. I told him that I did
not want to know where he had been; but he would persist on telling him.
he said that he and File had been to a house on Saturday night;
but that there was nothing in the house worth having, only furniture,
and that they could not get anything. He also said that they had
another "crib" in view for that night, where something would be done. I
went out shortly after dinner, and did not return until just upon
Sergeant-Major Muddock said: I belong to no. 6 battery of the 17th
Brigade Royal Artillery. I know the prisoners. They belong to my
battery. I was present when the roll was called on Sunday night,
and they were both absent without leave. the prisoners had not been
absent on any previous night of the week.
At this stage of the proceedings the Magistrates remanded the further
hearing of the charge until Friday (this day).
From the Dover Express and East Kent Intelligencer,
22 October, 1869. Price 1d.
Robert Smith and William McNuckat, two men belonging to the 17th
Brigade of Royal Artillery, stationed in this garrison, were charged
with wilfully breaking two panes of glass, value 6s., at the "Bowling
William Davis, landlord of the "Bowling Green tavern," Durham Hill,
said that between eight and nine o'clock on the previous evening the
prisoners came into his house, and had some beer. They enquired if the
half-past eight gun had fired, and he replied that it had. After the
prisoners had drunk the beer, he requested them to leave the house, when
they used bad language towards him. He endeavoured to get them out of
his house, when they turned round and broke two of the window-panes. The
value of the windows was 6s. each.
The prisoners, in reply to the Bench, said that when they had gone a
short distance from the house the complainant sent a woman after them,
to call them back. They returned, and the complainant then tried to push
them upstairs, and in their endeavour to prevent him from doing so, a
struggle ensued, and the windows were broken.
The magistrates did not believe their ingenious story, but fined the
prisoners 1s., the value of the broken glass, 12s., and the costs, 6s.,
which was paid on the prisoners behalf by an officer of the brigade, who
From the Dover Express and East Kent News, Friday, 8 January, 1875. Price 1d.
THE BOWLING GREEN TAVERN – A CURIOS APPLICATION
It will be recollected that some time ago, Mr. Pooley, the landlord of
the “Bowling Green Tavern,” left home, and his wife who was in charge of
his public-house was overcome with the duties devolving upon her, and
was taken to the Union workhouse where she remained a week. She came out
and paid for her board and lodgings, and her husband has since returned.
Mr. Worsfold Mowll now made application that the license should be
transferred to another landlord, on the grounds that Pooley had been
removed from the house. He called the owner of the house to give
Joseph Groombridge, the owner of the “Bowling Green Tavern,” said: I
have let the tavern on lease to Mr. Leney, brewer. My attention was
called to this house on the second week in November. I went to the
house, a man named Green having called my attention to it. The house was
closed. I knocked at the door several times about eleven o’clock in the
morning. At last the landlady opened the door. I found her sitting on
the bottom of the stairs in her night-dress, which was wet. I begged of
her to go up stairs, for she said she was destitute of everything and
that her husband had left her. I sent to the Police.
Pooley, the landlord, was in Court, and in coming forward said he wished
to keep his license. He did not run away with another woman as had been
said, or if he did he brought her back again. He often left home on
business and left his wife in charge.
The Magistrates decided that the landlord, Pooley, had not yielded up
possession in such a way as would justify them in transferring the
license without his consent.
From the Dover Express and East Kent News, Friday, 13 February, 1890. Price 1d.
DRUNK AND INCAPABLE
James Forsdyke was charged with being drunk and using obscene language
in Hartley Street, and Sarah Taylor was charged with being drunk and
disorderly in the same street.
Police-constable Hughes said that about a quarter past one that morning,
he was on duty in Hartley Street, near the “Bowling Green Tavern,” when
his attention was called, by hearing a woman scream inside the public
house. He waited outside about half an hour, when the two prisoners
attempted to come out arm in arm. They were both drunk, and fell out
into the road, got up, and fell down again. He asked the man his name,
and he made use of some very strong expressions. The woman was lying on
the ground, and he called for the landlord’s assistance. He picked the
woman up, and told her the landlord he had better take the male
prisoner. He did so, and had not got about four yards when he let him
go. He then took the man to the police station, and sent
Police-constable Finch to fetch the woman.
The prisoner’s were fined 5s. each, and costs 7s., or in default seven
days’ imprisonment with hard labour.
From the Dover Express and East Kent News, Friday, 28 August, 1891. Price 1d.
DOVER LICENSING SESSIONS
Objection to the renewal of this licence having been lodged by the
Temperance Council, it stood over.
THE TEMPERANCE OPPOSITION
The Magistrates’ Clerk said the Magistrates would next proceed to
consider the objections to the houses standing over.
BOWLING GREEN TAVERN
This license was opposed by Mr. Mark Knowles, on behalf of the
Temperance Council, the notice of objection served to the landlord,
Henry Pinnock, being that “the license is not needed in the
neighbourhood, and that you are not a fit and proper person to hold a
license, and that you have been convicted of keeping the house open for
that sale of liquor during prohibited hours.”
Mr. Wollaston Knocker appeared on behalf of the owner of the house to
support the renewal of the license.
Mr. Wilkie, Secretary of the Dover Temperance Council, having affirmed
in lieu of taking the oath, being a member of the Society of Friends,
produced an ordnance plan of the locality, with the existing public
houses marked thereon. He said: I know the locality of the house in
question. There are several other houses near, the “King Alfred” on
Durham Hill, about 50 yards away, the “Half Moon” in Blucher Row, about
30 yards away. There is the “Cause is Altered” in Queen Street, and the
“Ordnance Arms” in Queen Street.
Cross-examined by Mr. Knocker: Have you measured the distances that
these houses are apart?
Then you only speak of the distances from what you have been told?
I have measured them on the plan.
You object to this license conscientiously, of course?
You are a total abstainer, I suppose?
How long have you been in Dover?
Almost two years. (A laugh).
The Mayor: I must have order. If there should be any more demonstration
I will have the Court cleared.
Cross-examining continued: Do you object to public-houses generally?
I suppose I do.
Do you object top publicans receiving compensation for giving up their
That is a question which I should not like to answer with a single yes
or no without some explanation.
The Mayor: Better pass that over, Mr. Knocker.
Do you know that the population has largely increased since this license
Do you mean during the past year?
No, I mean, has not the population increased since this license was
I have no doubt that the population has increased.
Then the necessity for these houses has increased?
It would be commonly considered so.
I think you are a schoolmaster, Mr. Wilkie?
And you have opened a school next door to another, have you not?
No, there is another house, a public road, and a playground between. The
other school is a considerable way up.
At this point there was again a demonstration of feeling in the back
of the Court, and the Mayor again severely reprimanded the persons who
were making the demonstrations.
You would not like your school to be done away with on the ground that
there were too many?
I suppose that that would come on itself if there were too many.
Mr. Mark Knowles: Schools are not regulated by licenses like the drink
Police-constable Hughes was next called. He said: I recollect giving
evidence against the landlord of this house for having his house open
for the sale of drink during prohibited hours, that is at one o’clock in
the morning on the 10th February.
An argument here arose as to whether the evidence of the Policeman was
sufficient in this case.
Mr. Mark Knowles contended that it was only necessary to refresh the4
memory of the Court, as the facts were within their own knowledge.
Mr. Mowll contended that the record of the conviction should be
Ultimately the record of the conviction was produced and read by the
Clerk, to the effect that the landlord of the “Bowling Green Tavern” was
convicted on the 13th February of keeping open house during prohibited
hours, and was fined 20s. and costs. The conviction was not recorded on
Mr. Knowles said that that completed the case.
Mr. Knocker: I appear for Messrs. Leney and Co. The Bench will recollect
that the ground on which you are asked to refuse this license in the
first place is that it is not needed in the neighbourhood, but your
Worships having made a statement as to your intended future action in
that matter, I need not dwell at length on the number of houses in the
neighbourhood. With regard to the second point, that he is not a fit
person to conduct a public-house, there has been no evidence given as to
his character, except that there was a conviction against him.
The Magistrates’ Clerk: It has been held that the fact of there being
one conviction against the owner of a public-house is not evidence of
bad character generally.
Mr. Knocker: I am much obliged to you. It is also a fact that in this
case the license was not endorsed, so that the Bench must have
considered that the fine of 20s. was a sufficient punishment. It is a
custom in such cases for the landlord of the house to be called up at
the Licensing Sessions that he may be cautioned to keep his house better
in future; and I ask the Bench to adopt that course in this case. If
they departed from their usual rule in this case, the owners of the
house would be put to great disadvantage. It was well known to the
occupants of the Bench that Messrs. Leney and Co. were anxious that
their houses should be conducted properly, and if the sense of the Bench
had been marked by the endorsing of the license that the man was not fit
to keep the house, they would have obtained another tenant; but the
license not having been endorsed, I ask the Bench to follow their usual
course, and grant the license after cautioning the occupier.
The decision was deferred.
The Mayor said: I will now read the decisions of the Magistrates in the
The “Bowling Green Tavern,” license granted.
William Spratt witnessed the closure in 1937 when the district
became a slum clearance area and it was demolished for redevelopment. Leney managed to transfer the licence to
Aycliffe House in April 1938, thus allowing the "King Lear"
From the Dover Express and East Kent News. 7 January 1938. Price 1½d.
SHOULD A DOVER LICENSE BE MOVED
APPEAL AT QUARTER SESSIONS
At the east Kent Quarter Sessions on Tuesday at Canterbury, there was
heard an appeal which lasted two hours, against the refusal of the Dover
Licensing Bench to grant the special removal of the full “on” licence of
the “Bowling Green Tavern” to other premises known as Archliffe House.
Mr. B. H. Waddy appeared for appellant. Mr. James William Hover and Mr.
H. J. Baxter for the respondents.
Mr. Waddy said that when the matter was before the Justices they did not
give any reason for refusing the special removal asked for, and so he
did not know what point he would have to meet, unless Mr. Baxter was
prepared to tell them.
The Chairman (the Hon. Mr. Justice Luxmoore) asked if it were not a
statutory duty to give notice in writing, of the grounds of refusal?
Mr. Waddy: Yes, but in the Court below no one appeared to appreciate the
particular privileges attaching to this old on-licence.
The Chairman: What is the effect of their failure to state their
Mr. Waddy: Their reasons can be given now.
The Chairman: It does not make the order bad?
Mr. Waddy: No.
Quoting the Licensing Act, Mr. Waddy showed that Licensing Justices were
enabled to grant a special removal on the ground that the existing
premises were or were about to be pulled down under the Housing Act, a
clearance order having been made. The Licensing Act said that a licence
could be removed to any premises in the same area providing that they
were fit and convenient premises for the purpose. That was, of course, a
debatable point, and in that case the only debatable point was whether
the premises were in fact fit and convenient for the purposes of having
a licence. Had the Justices considered it a redundant licence they could
have referred it to the compensation authority, but they did not do so.
Mr. Baxter said his submission would be that the premises were not fit
and convenient for the purpose, and that the appeal that day was a
re-hearing. Therefore, the Court had the power relating to the matter
that the Justices had and could refer the matter to the compensation
The Chairman: I do not think the Court has that power. I do not think we
can deal with that. The question before us is whether the premises are
fit and convenient for the purposes of carrying on the licence.
Mr. Waddy produced photographs of Aycliffe House, and also plans of the
The Chairman, looking at a photograph said, “It does not look like
Mr. Waddy: Of course not, sir, it has not got a licence at the moment.
Colonel F. G. Hayward, architect, proved the plans, and said that the
rateable value of Aycliffe House was £35, and that of the “Bowling Green
Tavern” £18. It was proposed to provide better accommodation at Aycliffe
House, with a tea room upstairs.
In answer to Mr. Waddy, witness said that from the point of view of the
licensee and the brewers, he considered that the house was fit and
convenient premises. Before the application was made plans were
submitted to the Chief Constable of Dover, and there had been no
objection from the Police as to their suitability.
Replying to Mr. Baxter, witness said Aycliffe House lay on the old
Dover-Folkestone Road, and except for a few cottages, was almost the
last house out of Dover. Near by was a building estate, the nearest
house on which was about 100 yards away, but there were other houses
between. There were 120 to 130 houses on the estate, and he agreed there
were no other houses within half-a-mile. He also agreed that probably
there were about 300 adults in the neighbourhood.
The Chairman, referring to the schedule, said he doubted whether the
Bench had to consider anything more than the structural sufficiency or
structural suitability of the building.
Mr. Baxter thought those phrases could apply only to a renewal of a
licence, and that in regard to the special removal of a licence it was a
case of “fit and convenient for the purpose” of having a licence.
Mr. Baxter suggested to Colonel Hayward that the road was very little
used, and Colonel Hayward agreed that further than those houses it was
not very much used except by the military. There were schemes afoot for
making it a main arterial road. He believed it to be a military scheme.
The Chairman: Military or County Council?
Witness: I am not quite sure – I should say more military than County
Mr. Baxter dealt with various aspects of the building as it was at
present, and Col. Hayward agreed that it was impossible, without
alterations, to comply with the usual requirements of the Police as to
supervision by the licensee.
Mr. Waddy offered to call the licensee but Mr. Baxter said he had no
questions to ask him, and the Chairman said there could be no question
as to the way he conducted his house, and they could take it that no
suggestion could be made against him.
Mr. Baxter submitted that the appellants had not satisfied the duty laid
upon them of showing that there was a case for the special removal of
the licence. He emphasised the phrase in Section 24 Sub-Section 4 of the
Act – “fit and convenient premises for the purpose” – and said it was
significant that that phrase did not occur in Sub-Section 3, which dealt
with ordinary licences. In his submission it was obvious from that
Sub-Section that the Justices had to consider whether or not the
premises at the time of the application were “fit and convenient.”
The Chairman thought that if that meant that all the necessary
alterations had first to be made, it would be an intolerable burden put
upon the applicants. He suggested that an order might be made subject
provisionally to all the alterations being carried out.
Mr. Baxter argued that under the Act that could not be done, and, having
quoted the law, said the same difficulty arose regarding cinema
The Chairman suggested that the present difficulty might be met by
holding the appeal over until the alterations had been completed, but,
he added, there could not be any “bargaining” in the matter.
Mr. Baxter formally submitted that as the premises were at present they
were certainly not “fit and convenient.”
The Chairman agreed that without the alterations, they could not use
them as licensed premises. If the alterations were made Mr. Baxter would
have his chance to satisfy the Court that they were not suitable for a
In regard to police approval of the plans, Mr. Baxter said that point of
view was not necessarily a point of view to be considered by the
licensing Justices, although he agreed that it was an element to be
taken into consideration. He submitted that the Justices would almost
inevitably have rejected such an application had it been a new premises
for which a new licence was being asked. With only a few houses, and
about 300 adults, it would have been considered not fit and convenient
to have a licence there. On the grounds that the premises as they were,
were not fit and convenient and that, even if the alterations were
carried out, they would not be fit and convenient, he asked for the
appeal to be dismissed.
The Chairman said the premises might be “fit and convenient” if altered,
and he thought the majority of the Bench considered that the appellants
ought to have the opportunity of carrying out the work.
Mr. Waddy thought his clients, from the practical point of view, would
quite welcome the adjournment of the appeal until next Quarter Sessions.
Although the Bench might take the view that they could not express any
general approval of the plans, he thought he might invite either the
Bench of Mr. Baxter to express any disapproval of them.
Mr. Justice Luxmoore said Mr. Waddy had the benefit that no one had as
yet suggested that if the alterations were made the premises would not
make them fit for licensed premises. He thought that in the
circumstances the right course to take was to adjourn the appeal until
the Quarter Sessions in April, and Mr. Waddy could then bring evidence
as to what alterations had been made. The question of costs would be
deferred until that hearing.
The site, formerly Hartley's Meadow still remained vacant in 2001 and Mr
Barry Smith says brickwork still shows where homes were built into the bank
From the Dover Express and East Kent News, Friday 20
DURHAM HILL FLATS
A view of the flats now being built on Durham Hill (1953), facing
Military Road. Those on the right, near Bowling Green Terrace, are
nearing completion. They will help to meet the demand for accommodation
in the town centre.
MARSH Harry 1805
BEACHING Nathaniel 1823-28 (Bowling Green House)
BEACHING Nathaniel 1833-39+ (Bowling Green)
RAND Thomas 1842
HOPPER John 1858
BURTON William 1864
CLARK to Mar/1867
ORAM Morris to Sep/1868
DAVIS William Sep/1868-69
HART William Apr/1873-Sept/74
POOLEY Edward Sept/1874+
WRAIGHT James 1875
BLAKE James 1875-90 end
BROWN Cornelius 1879
BLAKE James junior 1890
PENNOCK Harry 1891
CHANDLER William George 1895
also beer retailer)
SUMMERFIELD John William
WRIGHT William Nov/1900-Mar/02 dec'd
WRIGHT Mrs Elizabeth (widow and executrix) Mar/1902+
CROUCHER William to Dec/1903
SPRATT William Dec/1903-Mar/12
and 1930-37 end
BRYANT John Thos Mar/1913-18+
MARKLEW H 1919
ROSE Edward H 1922-Nov/25
WEEKS William Thomas Nov/1925-37 dec'd (An electrician of Rainham,
GOODE Sidney Alwyn June/1929
MARSH William A 1930
SPRATT William 1930-37 end
From the Pigot's Directory 1823
From the Pigot's Directory 1828-29
From the Pigot's Directory 1832-33-34
From the Pigot's Directory 1839
From the Pigot's Directory 1840
From Melville's Directory 1858
From the Kelly's Directory 1874
From the Post Office Directory 1882
From the Post Office Directory 1891
Pikes Dover Blue Book 1895
From the Post Office Directory 1901
From the Post Office Directory 1913
From the Post Office Directory 1918
From the Post Office Directory 1922
From Pikes Dover Blue Book 1923
From Pikes Dover Blue Book 1924
From the Post Office Directory 1930
From Pikes Dover Blue Book 1932-33
From the Dover Express