18 Market Square
13 Market Square
Dover
Above photo, circa 1900, kindly sent by Rory Kehoe. |
Above photo from the John Gilham collection, circa 1932. |
Duchess of Kent next door to The Walmer Castle circa 1960. |
Above postcard, circa 1920, kindly sent by Paul Wells. |
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A VIEW of the Market Square, looking into King Street,
taken during a procession through streets lined with spectators, many
standing on farm carts suggesting it was market day. Young sailors
marched alongside an old Dover lifeboat, drawn by a team of six horses,
followed by members of Dover Friendly Society. Tramway standards date
the picture as post-1896. Pictured on the corner of King Street is
Burton's Fountain Hotel and, next door, the Duchess of Kent Inn. One
sign on the Fountain advertises "MacDonald's Teeth Guaranteed.
Information taken from John Bavington Jones' book "A
Perambulation of the Town, Port and Fortress of Dover", 1906. (Reprint
in The South Kent Gazette, June 27th, 1979.) |
MEMENTOES of Dover Tramway: One of the first Dover trams,
car No 3, with open top deck heads for Buckland from the Pier terminus near
the Crosswall quay and is about to overtake a cart hauled by two horses
standing outside the Metropole Restaurant which was opposite St Mary's Church.
In the background can be seen the Duchess of Kent and Walmer Castle public
houses standing side by side near the King Street corner of the Market
Square. Behind the tram is believed to Waterloo House, the very distinctive
shop of Hart & Co Incorporating a very useful public clock. |
Above card issued April 1955. Sign series 5 number 18. |
Butchers Lane once stood nearby and in 1690 this sign was the "Butcher's
Arms". It still traded as such in 1822 but had deteriorated so much that it
was subsequently re-fronted. It was named "Duchess of Kent" in 1835
in honour of Queen Victoria's mother. The
sign depicted her wearing a turban so obviously a story there. She honoured
the town with a visit that year certainly, but her needs were attended to by
the "Ship Hotel".
You could down a pub pint at three in the morning, a privilege renewed in
1874 and 1900. Legislation of 1914 banned the sale of alcohol after 9 pm,
only the Duchess, the Walmer Castle and buffets at the town and harbour
stations were exempt.
The pub changed hands no fewer than four times in the 1920s, passing
from East Kent Brewery, to Ash's East Kent Brewery in 1920, which was bought
by Jude, Hanbury in 1923 and finally, in 1929, to Mackeson's Hythe Brewery
(which was all part of the Whitbread "sub-radar" Mackeson acquisition
shenanigans.)
The "Duchess of Kent" was referred to as an eating house and
mentioned as such as early as 1838 and as late as 1875
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Mr. J. R. Williams, who kept the "Duchess of Kent", was the founder of
the Dover Philanthropic Society. The idea occurred to him on a snowy
December day in 1838, on seeing a number of unemployed men standing in the
Market Place with their hands, and nothing else, in their pockets, and
starvation stamped on their wan faces. He thought with how little money
their pressing wants could be met, and, on stating the case to Mr. Steriker
Finnis, Mr. S. M. Latham and others, a sufficient fund was soon raised, and
a soup kitchen was established.
From the Dover Express and East Kent News, Friday, 17 August, 1888. Price 1d.
TWO MUNSTERS IN TROUBLE
Robert Chandler and John Hayes, two privates in the Royal Munster
Fusiliers Regiment, were charged with wilfully breaking two panes of
glass, value £1 4s. 6d., and stealing a large quantity of beef and ham,
value 15s., the property of Caroline Hammond.
Caroline Simmonds, wife of Charles Simmonds, said she was staying with
her mother, who kept the “Duchess of Kent” public house in the Market
Square. At about 9.45 p.m. the previous night, she was sitting in the
bar, when she heard someone tap the window with a stick, and saw the two
prisoners outside. They struck the window with their hands and broke it
and then took a whole ham and a small piece of pork from the window. The
ham was the same as that produced. They ran away towards the “Fountain
Hotel,” but were caught by some Artillerymen. Police-sergeant Stephens
took the prisoners in custody. The damage done to the windows and three
show cards would be £1 4s. 6d., and the value of the meat taken away was
15s.
Police-sergeant Stephens said last evening about 20 minutes to ten
o'clock, he was in the Market Square, when he saw the two prisoners in
front of the “Duchess of Kent.” They were tapping the windows with their
sticks. Witness shouted out “piquet,” but could not see one. He went
towards the prisoners, and they were just in the act of taking the meat
out of the window that was broken. An Artilleryman caught hold of one of
the prisoners and witness caught the other. One Artilleryman struck
witness on the neck and made him lose his hold of the man he had. The
prisoners were afterwards handcuffed and brought to the Police Station
with the assistance of Police-constable Lockwood and Baker.
The prisoners said they wished the case to be dealt with summarily.
Major Allen, of the Royal Munster Fusiliers Regiment said the prisoners
had not been convicted by a civil power before.
The Bench sentenced the prisoners to two months' imprisonment each with
hard labour.
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It was the custom here to open at three thirty a.m. and that privilege
was renewed in 1874 and 1900.
At the end of the nineteenth century coaches were leaving the inn for St.
Margaret's Bay at four thirty p.m. every day except Sunday.
It was offered to the highest bidder by Mrs. Harding in 1890 but was
withdrawn at £1,100.
From the Dover Express and East Kent News, Friday, 8 May, 1896.
WILFULL DAMAGE
Herbert Cordukes, a private in the West Yorks, was charged with wilfully
breaking a window at the “Duchess of Kent,” Market Square, value £1
15s., and stealing there from a bottle of brandy, value 3s. 6d.
P.C. James Lockwood said: On Saturday night shortly before 12 o'clock, I
was in the Market Square, and heard a smash of glass in the direction of
the “Duchess of Kent,” and I then saw the prisoner across the Market
Square, with the bottle of brandy (produced) in his hand. I stopped him
and took him back to the “Duchess of Kent,” and found the corner pane of
glass broken. There was a vacant place on the shelf inside where the
bottle had been taken from. The prisoner was not drunk but had been
drunk. There was a second pane of glass in the partition inside the
window broken.
Charles Hubbard said that the “Duchess of Kent” was kept by his wife.
The window was all right when the premises were closed. About twenty to
twelve, whilst in bed, he heard a smash of glass, and on looking out of
the window saw the prisoner in custody. The damage was estimated at 35s.
The prisoner, who pleaded “Guilty,” was sent to Canterbury gaol for two
month's hard labour.
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From the Dover Express and East Kent News, Friday, 3 October, 1890. Price 5d.
PROPERTY SALE
Yesterday afternoon Messrs. Terson and Son offered five public houses,
the property of Mrs. Harding, for sale by auction at the “Royal Oak
Hotel.” The result was the “Duchess of Kent” in the Market Place, went up to £1,100, when
it was withdrawn, it being said that the reserve price had not been
reached.
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From the Dover Express and East Kent News, Friday 18 May, 1906. Price 1d.
LICENSING BUSINESS
An extension of an hour was allowed at the “Duchess of Kent” on
Wednesday evening, when the waiters, etc. from the Yeomanry Camp, were
to hold a musical evening.
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From the Dover Express and East Kent News, Friday 3
June, 1910
LICENSING BUSINESS
At the Dover Police Court this morning, before the Mayor (W. Emden,
Esq.) in the chair, W. Bradley and G, B. Rubie, Esqrs.
Application was made for certain structural alterations to the
Duchess of Kent, Market Square.
The Maror said that the plan submitted was very unsatisfactory, as it
did not distinguish between the old and the new part.
The applicant stated it was simply a matter of putting in a new
window.
The Mayor said the Bench must have a drawing showing the premises at
the present time. The plan submitted was of no use whatsoever. If the
applicant would bring the two plans up at a reasonable date, no doubt
the Magistrates would consider them.
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From the Dover Express and East Kent News, Friday, 19 September, 1913. Price 1d.
SCENE AT THE DUCHESS OF KENT
At the Dover Police Court on Monday, before Messrs. P. W. J. Mackenzie
(in the chair) and F. Wright.
Henry Parkinson, a collier, was charged with wilfully breaking a pane of
glass in the bar door of the “Duchess of Kent,” Market Square, doing
damage to the amount of 15s., the property of Owen French, licensed
victualler.
Owen French said: I am the landlord of the “Duchess of Kent,” Market
Square. On Saturday the defendant came into the bar with three other
men, and they called for three glasses of beer and one of whisky.
Parkinson said he did not want any, and put his glass up. He seemed to
have a grievance with the coal people, and got very excited, and used
bad language. I asked him to go, but he would not. He then turned his
abuse on to me. He wanted his drink, and I handed him that which he had
put up. He would not have that, and I drew him another, and told him to
drink that and go. He said he would throw it in my b____ face. I told
him not to, for he would be sorry for it. He then deliberately turned
round and threw the glass of beer through a pane of stained glass in my
front bar door.
Police-constable Husk said: I was called at about 6.30 p.m. by the last
witness, and found the defendant outside the house. The landlord said he
wished to give the defendant into custody for breaking the pane of
glass. The defendant was not sober, and said someone else threw it.
The defendant said he was excited. He had been teetotaller until
Saturday, and met one or two mates, and had a little drink, which
affected him, as he had had an accident once. He said he came from
Lancashire on representations of getting money at the collieries. He
applied for work, and was told that they were “sacking” 72 men at
Snowdown, and neither Tilmanstone nor Shakespeare wanted anyone.
The Chairman: And yet they are advertising in the North?
The defendant said they were advertising in Lancashire, Yorkshire, and
North Wales for men to come here. He came supposing there was plenty of
work. He had good work at the time, but wanted a change. He was willing
to pay for the damage.
The Chairman advised him to get back as soon as he could. He would be
fined 25s. inclusive, and allowed fourteen days in which to pay; in
default, 21 days'.
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From the Dover Express and East Kent News, Friday 26 December, 1924
SOVEREIGN EXHIBITED IN A PUBLIC-HOUSE - WHAT HAPPENED
At the Dover Police Court on Tuesday, before Alderman C. J. Sellens and
Mr. C. E. Beaufoy.
Henry Williams, of Adrian Street, and Arthur Hall, of York Street, a
Lance-Corporal in the 26th Company Royal Engineers, Borden, were charged
with being concerned together in stealing from William Henry Page £2
10s. in gold. Hall was further charged with receiving £1, well knowing
it to have been stolen.
William Henry Page, of 21, Crabble Hill, a flower seller, said that he
went into the public bar of the “Duchess of Kent” about 8.10 p.m. the
previous day, where he saw the two prisoners. Witness called for a soda.
He knew the prisoners well and was talking to them, having always
classed them as his “pals.” Witness had two sovereigns and a half
sovereign in his possession and showed them to a chap whose name he did
not know. He handed them to him to have a look, saying, “You don't see
many of these now.” The bar was crowded, and Williams called his
attention. He turned to look and Hall was standing behind him. Williams
snatched the money away from the man and put it in his trouser pocket.
Witness asked for it back, as it did not belong to him (witness).
Williams said “You can't have no money off of me and you can go as you
like,” and left the house. Witness had previously seen Williams pass
some of the money to Hall. He did not know if it was a sovereign or a
half. The prisoners then went to the “Criterion,” in Last Lane, and
witness followed and asked for the money back, saying that he did not
want to lock them up. They said “You can't have anything out of me,” and
witness fetched a Policeman. Hall said “It's no use fetching one, fetch
the Force.” Witness went for the Police and gave them in charge. At the
door of the Police Station Williams said to him, “Why don't you hang
back, you fool?” The money belonged to his wife and he met her when he
was scotching these men up to the “Criterion.”
Williams: You said you would toss anyone for half a sovereign.
No tossing at all. You had no money on you to toss with.
We went outside and tossed for it, and I beat you for two sovereigns and
a half.
No, sir.
Did I not say to you “Come up in the morning, and I will give you the
money back?
No.
You were not capable of looking after it.
Hall denied that he said Page could fetch the Force.
P.C. Langley said that at 8.40 p.m., when at New Bridge, he was informed
by Page that he wished to give Williams in charge for stealing the £2
10s. Witness went to the “Criterion” and saw Williams, who denied
stealing the money but said that he had tossed Page for the money. He
told him he was not satisfied and would take him to the Police Station
for further enquiries. Whilst questioning Williams, Hall was in his
company, and on hearing this remark he volunteered to come on Williams'
behalf. At the Police Station, Williams was further cautioned and
questioned. He said “We were in the public bar of the “Duchess of Kent.”
I and page tossed for the money five times, 10s a call, and I won the £2
10s. from him. I gave Hall £1, the other 30s. I gave to Mrs. Rose
Thorne, of 36, Adrian Street, to give to my wife.” Hall was cautioned,
and in reply said: “We were in the “Duchess of Kent,” and we tossed, a
three-handed toss. I won £1 from Page. Williams won £1 10s.” Witness
then went, with P.C. Merricks, to 36, Adrian Street, and saw Mrs.
Thorne, who at first denied all knowledge of the money or that she had
seen Williams since 2 p.m. that day, but when pressed she admitted that
Williams had given her a small parcel, butt hat she did not know what it
contained. It was opened in her presence, and it contained a sovereign
and a half a sovereign. Hall and Williams were charged at the Police
Station, and made no reply.
Hall said that he was not likely to say there was a three-handed toss
when Page saw Williams hand him the sovereign.
Both defendants pleaded not guilty.
Williams said that he was a pensioner and he would not have chanced
losing his pension for £2 10s. He tossed Page fairly, and he did not
like it because he beat him. “I tossed for it and won it fairly outside
the “Duchess of Kent,” but I told him that if he came up next morning I
would give it to him back.”
Hall said that he had known Page for a long while, but never knew any
good of him. He had gambled with him, and it was always the same. If he
was on the winning side he was all right, but as soon as he lost he
started crying. Witness was on leave from his regiment, and it was not
likely that he would get himself into trouble when he had to only write
to his regiment for an advance of pay. Hall added: He could not lose a
cup of tea without crying.
The Chairman: Are you willing to hand over this money?
Hall: I treated the “boys” to a drink and paid for Page's soda out of
the money.
The Chairman: Will you hand it back?
Williams (to Hall): Say yes.
Hall: Yes.
The Chairman said that on those conditions they would dismiss the case.
They thought it an extremely foolish proceeding for a man to show off
money as Page had done.
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An unusual distinction was held by the business in 1914. That year, all
licensed premises and clubs were prohibited from selling alcoholic drinks
after nine p.m. The exceptions were the "Duchess of Kent" and the "Walmer
Castle" and the buffets at the town and harbour stations.
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The old Duchess of Kent and Walmer Castle public houses
in 1955 before they were merged to become the Elephant and Hind.
Information taken from John Bavington Jones' book "A
Perambulation of the Town, Port and Fortress of Dover", 1906. (Reprint
in The South Kent Gazette, July 4th, 1979.
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Above picture kindly sent to me by Andrew Emmerson who says he thinks
the picture was taken circa 1938. |
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From the Dover Express, 12 October, 1951.
The funeral took place on
Thursday last week, at Charlton Cemetery, of Mr Edward Charles Le Gross,
whose death, at the age of 71 occurred on July 29th, at the "Duchess of
Kent" Inn, Market Square, where he had been licensee for 30 years. The
Rev a. s. Cooper officiated, and mourners present were:- Mrs. A. E. Le
Gross (widow), Mr. M. Le Gross (son), Mr. and Mrs. Croucher (son-in-law
and daughter), Mrs. O Dunn (grand-daughter), Mr. H Le Gross (brother),
Mr. G Bonner and Mr. H. Sergtson (brother-in-law). Mrs. Booker, Mr. and
Mrs. Fuller, Mr. and Mrs. Moody, Mr. and Mrs. Copley, ("Walmer Castle"
Inn), Mr. W. Goodban, Mr. C. Nice, Mr. G. Watson, Mr. A. Hearn, Mr. G.
Askham, Mr. R. Bilton, Mr. W. Bryne, Miss. G. Yates, Mrs. P. Curling,
Mr. Thunder (representing Mackeson and Co., Hythe),Mr. and Mrs. McLeod,
Mr. and Mrs. A. Maslin, Mrs. F. Hammond and family, Mr. Hunt, Mrs.
Angell, Mrs. W. Sands and Mrs. Hogg (friends). There were numerous
floral tributes. The funeral arrangements were by Mr. B. J. Andrews, 33,
New Street.
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In 1962, planning permission was given for this house which belonged to
Mackeson, to merge with its neighbour the "Walmer Castle" which belonged to Fremlin. The licence of the "Duchess" was surrendered to make that possible
and by agreement, the two brewers held equal shares in the new pub. That was
named the "Elephant and Hind" to commemorate the trademarks of the two
breweries in 1964.
It is now trading like a French Café under the name of "Bar
Ellie".
LICENSEE LIST
WILLIAMS J R 1835
TRIM to July/1867 dec'd
TRIM Mrs Ann July/1867-71 (age 63 in 1871)
BAKER George Sept/1871+
HAMMOND George Jan/1874
HAMMOND Stephen A 1874-75+
MARSH Caroline to Jan/1880
MARSH Henry 1881-92
(Blacksmith) (age 33 in 1881)
HAMMOND Caroline 1891-95 (widow age 62 in 1891)
HUBBARD Mrs Annie Kate 1896
SUTTON Thomas 1898-99+
RACKLIFF Charles 1901-Dec/02 dec'd
RACKLIFF Julia Georgina (widow) Dec/1902-Dec/03
WOOD Mark Witherden Dec/1903-1905 dec'd
WOOD Mrs Ellen Louisa 1905-10 end
FRENCH Owen F 1910-26/June/17
BEANE Francis James 26/June/1917-23 end
LEGROSS EDWIN Charles junior 1923-51 end
(LE-GROSS)
CRONE Robert 1951-61 end
HARPER Eric 1962-64 end
From the Post Office Directory 1874
From Sinnock Directory 1875
From the Post Office Directory 1882
From the Post Office Directory 1891
From Pikes Dover Blue Book 1895
From the Kelly's Directory 1899
From the Post Office Directory 1901
From the Post Office Directory 1903
From the Kelly's Directory 1903
From the Post Office Directory 1913
From the Post Office Directory 1922
From Pikes Dover Blue Book 1924
From the Post Office Directory 1930
From the Post Office Directory 1938
From Pikes Dover Blue Book 1938-39
From Pikes Dover Blue Book 1948-49
From the Kelly's Directory 1950
From the Kelly's Directory 1953
From the Kelly's Directory 1956
From Pikes Dover Blue Book 1932-33
From the Dover Express
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