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PUB LIST PUBLIC HOUSES Barry Smith and Paul Skelton

Earliest 1730

Fountain

Latest 1913

7-8 King Street

Market Place in 1823

Fountain Hotel circa 1860

Above picture kindly sent by Kathleen Hollingsbee. Circa 1860.

Guildhall and Fountain Inn

A BUSY Dover market place scene based in a J. E. Youden sketch dated 1822. A painting based on this hangs in Dover's council chamber. Interesting features include the old Fountain Inn, to the left of the Guildhall (built in 1605), with a paddock emblem on the wall, the old prison to the right next to the premises of a baker and hairdresser, Morphew's tea and tallow chandlers' shop and Durtnall's ironmongery business.

 

Fountain Inn

This view of the old Guildhall, with its rather odd perspective as in the 1788 print, has a number of interesting features. On the right are several lofty remnants of St. Martin-le-Grand together with the upholder's shop of Val Fuller with a sign depicting a ship on a rough sea. Near the pawnbrokers are the stocks and a striped barber's pole. It was at this point that properties on this side of the square were separated by a narrow lane leading into St. Martin's churchyard. The Guildhall itself sports new wooden pillars and windows which were added in 1759. To the left of the Guildhall is the old Fountain Inn with a riders' mounting stool outside. Next door is a building which was later demolished to widen King Street, once a very narrow lane.

Information taken from John Bavington Jones' book "A Perambulation of the Town, Port and Fortress of Dover", 1906. (Reprint in The South Kent Gazette, May 30th, 1979.)

 

According to Michael David Mirams in his book "Kent Inns and Inn Signs,"  the Fountain was built on the site of an old farmhouse, and was trading in the 1860s. It was originally the "Prince of Wales," but the name was changed in 1873 to avoid confusion with the "Prince Regent" nearby. I don't think the change of name is correct. Paul Skelton.

 

This alehouse on the corner of the Square provided Flint's ale. The name had no significance. A drinking fountain in the Square appeared later but did not last long. I pause here while I try to think where I might find such a useful commodity today.

 

This outlet traded when King Street was only fifteen feet wide but it ended when this side of the street was taken down by the widening of King Street by an Act of Parliament around 1823-1826. It was probably number one, the next house to the corner, No. 2, was also the property of Messrs. Flint and Co. but following the widening the numbers start from the other end. It was rebuilt, set back to the new building line. Sold late in 1912 it was demolished in 1915 to provide a site for the enlarged bank premises of the Westminster Bank - formerly the London and County Bank - now the Nationwide Building Society offices.

 

Information taken from John Bavington Jones' book "A Perambulation of the Town, Port and Fortress of Dover", 1906. (Reprint in The South Kent Gazette, August 8th, 1979.)

That old bit of Dover called Caroline Place, in honour of Queen Caroline, about whom popular feeling ran so high in the early portion of the 19th century, was once very well known to frequentem of Dover Market. Here, until 1906, was the "Old Fountain Inn," a house of call for the owners of market vans, which used this street as a standing place. This house bore this name as early as 1840. Although CaroIine Place was apparently a cul de sac, the extension at right angles contained a row of houses that led to the former tanyard, and the name Caroline Place was given when these were built.

 

 

From the Kentish Post or Canterbury News-Letter, April 15-18, 1730. Kindly sent from Alec Hasenson.

Advert for the Fountain Inn in Dover by Joseph Knocker, a Barber and Peruke Maker, who also runs the Public House!

Peruke

By the way, a Peruke Maker was a manufacturer of wigs especially for men. In the 1700s a lot of folk didn't bathe that often and so there was a call for a lot of cologne to make one smell better and obviously wigs for those bad hair days. Paul Skelton.

 

Kentish Post or Canterbury News, April 16 to 20, 1748. Kindly sent from Alec Hasenson.

Sale of a Privateer at the Fountain Tavern, Dover, May 3. 1748.

 

Again, as there is no address, I am going to assume this to be the same pub as is called the "Fountain Hotel" and so pre-dates my earliest record again.

 

Kentish Post or Canterbury News, July 16-19, 1755. Kindly sent from Alec Hasenson.

To be Lett, Joseph Knocker's the Fountain Tavern in the Market-Place, Dover.

July 23-26, 1755

Advert above amended, and now reads as being for Sale August 1st, 1755, “with the Stables and Appurtenances thereto belonging.”

 

From the Kentish Post or Canterbury News-Letter, August 11-14, 1756. Kindly sent from Alec Hasenson.

Advert for a Sale of a Messuage at Mr. Tom's at the Fountain in Dover.

 

From the Kentish Post, January 12-16, 1765. Kindly sent from Alec Hasenson.

Notice:- John White, (late servant to Henry Oxenham, Esquires at Broom House) has taken the "Fountain Inn," in the Market Place, Dover, late in the occupation of George Toms, deceased.

 

From the Kentish Gazette or Canterbury Chronicle, Wednesday 31 May to Saturday 3 June, 1769. Price 2½d.

TURNPIKE

The Trustees of the Turnpike Road between Dovor and Barham Down, do hereby give Notice, that the Tolls granted for repairing the said Road, are to be Lett for One Year, to the highest Bidder, on Thursday the 15th instant, at Six o'clock in the afternoon, at the Sign of the “Fountain,” in the Market Place in Dovor, at which Time and Place, all Persons willing to Hire the same, are desired to deliver in their proposals in Writing sealed up.

This will be advertised no more.

 

From the Kentish Gazette, or Canterbury Journal [one title]. October 4 to 7, 1769. Kindly sent from Alec Hasenson.

Advert for sale by auction of a Messuage, Shop etc, to be held at the sign of the Fountain in Dover, on October 16th 1769.

 

Kindly sent from Alec Hasenson. A Notice in the Kentish Gazette for January 21-25, 1772 states:-

THOMAS HOOPER, from the Swan in Green-street, in the Parish of Linstead, informs the public that he has taken the Fountain in the Market Place, Dover.

 

Kindly sent from Alec Hasenson. A Notice in the Kentish Gazette for March 15-18, 1791 states:-

Canterbury, March 18 - On Monday last died at Dover, Mr. Thomas Bottler, master at the "Fountain" public house, at this place, aged 49.

 

 

Following the widening of the street and the rebuilding about 1823-1826, this took the corner position once more. The ownership meanwhile had passed from Flint to Russell's Gravesend Brewery. An inn from about 1870 and opening at 3.30am in 1884.

 

From the Dover Telegraph and Cinque Ports General Advertiser, Saturday, 6 December, 1845. Price 5d.

DOVER POLICE COURT

Mary Thomas, single-woman, was fined 35s. including costs, for breaking several squares of glass, the property of Mr. Wood, of the “Fountain Inn,” and in default of payment was committed for one month.

 

From the Dover Telegraph and Cinque Ports General Advertiser, Saturday, 17 April, 1847. Price 5d.

DOVER – FOUNTAIN INN

To let, with immediate possession.

This desirable Inn, situate in Market Place, doing good business; coming in easy, and rent low.

Satisfactory reasons will be given for the present tenant leaving, on application to, Mr. Thomas Robinson, Auctioneer, 18, bench Street, Dover.

 

From the Dover Express and East Kent News, Friday, 16 July, 1869.

BREAKING A PLATE-GLASS WINDOW

A man who gave the name of John James but whose real name it transpired was John Shurton, and who belonged to Plumstead, near Woolwich, was brought up charged with wilfully breaking a plate-glass window, value £4, at the "Fountain Hotel," King Street.

It appeared that the prisoner said at the station-house that he is a shoe-maker, but, in reply to the Bench, he now contradicted that statement, and said that he had lately been discharged from the Woolwich dockyard.

Detective-constable Charles Hemmings said that about eleven o'clock on the previous night he heard a smashing of glass in King Street. He went to the spot from whence the sound proceeded and saw the prisoner going across the Market Square. He followed him, and asked him if he had seen or heard anything of a window being smashed. He replied that he had not. Witness then asked him to step back, and have a look at it, which he did, when, after looking a few minutes, he said, "It's no use bothering about it, it was I that broke it." The witness then picked up a stone with which the window had apparently been broken. It was quite warm when he picked it up, and he should think it must have been in the prisoner's hand for some considerable time. He found the stone lying close underneath the window on the pavement. The prisoner appeared to be quite sober, and talked in a sensible way. The witness on searching him found a bottle which he supposed had contained spirits. he had no doubt that the prisoner had been drinking, but still he was sober. the landlady's servant, John Russell, gave the prisoner into custody, and the constable then took him to the station-house, where, on the charge being read over to him, he admitted throwing the stone at the window.

Robert Russell, in the employ of Mrs. Paramor, the landlady at the "Fountain Hotel" said he was in the bar of the hotel, at about eleven o'clock on the previous night, when he heard the breaking of glass. On going outside he saw the prisoner crossing the Market Square and Hemmings following him. The constable brought the prisoner back to the window, when the witness gave him into custody of Hemmings on the charge of breaking the window. The witness first heard the prisoner acknowledge breaking it. The value of the window was £4.

The prisoner, in reply to the Bench, again acknowledged that he broke the window.

The Magistrates fined the prisoner 5s. the value of the window, £4, and 12s. costs; in default three weeks' imprisonment, with hard labour.

Prisoner went to gaol.

 

From the Dover Express and East Kent Intelligencer, 11 March, 1870. Price 1d.

LICENSES

In the case of the "Fountain Inn," Market Square, application was made for the transfer of the license to Mr. William Saville, one of the trustees under the marriage settlement of the landlady, who has recently re-married.

The Justices' Clerk enquired if Mr. Saville intended to reside on the premises.

Mr. Saville said he did not; but he was quite prepared to take all responsibility.

The transfer was then formally made.

 

From the Dover Express and East Kent Intelligencer, 29 July, 1870. Price 1d.

LICENSES

Permission to sell at the "Fountain Inn" until the next transfer day was granted to Mr. Charles Pain.

 

From the Dover Express and East Kent Intelligencer, 6 February, 1874. Price 1d.

STREET ACCIDENT

A team of horses and a country waggon were standing this morning at the "Fountain" corner of Market-place, when the horses took fright and the wheel of the waggon knocked down a lamp-post but did no other damage.

 

From the Dover Express and East Kent News, Friday, 2 July, 1875.

CHARGE OF DRUNKENNESS

Charles Pain, landlord of the "Fountain Hotel," was charged with being drunk and creating a disturbance in King Street.

Sergeant Stevens was about to give evidence, when Mr. Worsfold Mowll, who appeared for the defendant, asked for a remand, on the ground that Mr. William Wood, and Mr. Edwin Packham, whom the defendant desired to call as witnesses, had gone to London in a yacht, and would not be back till Monday. The case was adjourned till Friday, and owing the the respectable position which the defendant holds in the town bail was not required.

 

From the Dover Express and East Kent News, Friday, 2 July, 1875.

REMANDED CHARGE OF DRUNKENNESS

Charles pain, landlord of the "Fountain Inn," Market-square, remanded from last Saturday, on a charge of being drunk and disorderly on the previous evening, on being called, Mr. Mowll, solicitor, rose and said he appeared for the defendant, Mr. Charles pain. On Saturday last, when the case was brought before the Bench, he asked the sitting magistrates for a remand, that he might bring forward some witnesses who were then absent from Dover, in order that the affair might be fully investigated. Dr. Astley was good enough to do so, since which time, he (Mr. Mowll) had given the case his careful attention, and his client, now through him, expressed his sincere regret for what occurred, and he trusted that the expression of regret on the part of Mr. Pain, would meet the requirement of the case. If the Superintendent of Police thought that the charge ought to be investigated, it was not his wish to  shirk it, and his client did not deny what had taken place, nor that the police had done more than their duty, but he was anxious if possible to prevent any further investigation.

The Bench after a short consultation, considering that there being no imputation cast on the police, and Mr. Pain regretted what had occurred, the charge was withdrawn.

 

From the Dover Express and East Kent News, Friday 6 April, 1877.

DISORDERLY CONDUCT

Henry Morgan, private in the 6th Regiment, was charged with being drunk and disorderly in the Markey Square, and with assaulting Police-constable Corrie in the execution of his duty.

Police-constable Corrie said: Yesterday evening, about a quarter-past six, I was called into the Market Place, to the “Fountain” public-house. I was in plain clothes. I saw about 40 or 50 soldiers fighting inside the house and outside. I went into the house and got most of them out. I got the prisoner out, and he tried to get in again. I told him I was a Police-constable and should not let him go in again. He then struck me in the breast, and caught hold of my whiskers and pulled me out of the door. With the assistance of another constable, I got him to the Police-station. He was very violent, but not drunk.

The prisoner was sentenced to three months with hard labour.

 

From the Dover Express and East Kent News, Friday 8 February, 1878

DRUNK AND DISORDERLY

Joseph Rock was charged with being drunk and disorderly in the market Square, on Wednesday evening.

Police-constable Hambrook said he was called to the “Fountain Hotel,” and found the prisoner drunk. The landlord refused to serve him, and asked the Constable to put him out. The Constable put him out, and he abused the Constable and was taken into custody.

The defendant was fined 2s. and dismissed with a caution.

 

From the Dover Express and East Kent News, Friday 4 October, 1878

PERMISSION TO DRAW

Was granted to Mr. William St. John, at the “Fountain Inn,” Market Square, on the receipt of good testimonials.
 

From the Dover Express and East Kent Intelligencer, 3 January, 1882. Price 1d.

BEGGING

William Kann, a labourer, was charged with begging in Market Street.

Police-constable Pilcher said: On Saturday evening last, at about half-past seven o'clock, I was on duty in the Market Square, when I received several complaints about the prisoner begging. I watched him coming out of the “Fountain Hotel,” and from there he went into Market Street, where I heard him ask for a copper for his lodgings. He also went into Mr. Bridge's, the saddler's, and asked for money. One prisoner was drunk, and I took him to the Police-station, where he was searched, and a loaf of bread was found on him, but no money.

The prisoner said that he had work on the loop line, and was going to it that morning.

The Bench cautioned the prisoner and discharged him.

 

From the Dover Express and East Kent News, Friday, 9 September, 1887. Price 1d.

CHARGE OF INFRINGING THE LICENSING LAW

Mr. R. W. Pryer, the landlord of the “Fountain Hotel,” Market Place, Sergeant R. Murray, and Sergeant P. Aherne, of the East Kent Regiment, were charged, the former will allowing guests to be on licensed premises during prohibited hours, and the latter with being so on the premises.

Mr. Vernon Knocker, Deputy Town Clerk, appeared on behalf of the Watch Committee. He stated that from the evidence it would appear perfectly clear that the men were on the premises between nine and ten on Sunday morning, and the consumption of liquor took place. He believed that the defence would be that the liquor was not paid for, but that did not effect the case unless it could be shown that the parties were bona fide private guests of the landlord.

Police-constable H. G. Fogg said: On Sunday morning, August 21, I was on duty at the end of Church Street, near Mr. Igglesden's confectionary shop, about a quarter past nine o'clock. I had just arrived at the corner, and looking across the Market Place I saw the two defendants Murray and Aherne about 12 yards ahead of me going down from Cannon Street way towards the “Fountain Hotel.” I watched go to the door in King Street, open it and walk in. I saw Police-constable Bass standing against the “Walmer castle inn.” He came across the Market to meet me, and I told him what I had seen. He accompanied me then to the “Fountain.” We went in at the same door, which was closed but not locked. I saw the two sergeants standing in the passage outside the bar, and a young man, who said he was the landlord's son, was standing in the door talking to them. I spoke to the landlord's son. I asked what the two men were doing there. He said that they were his personal guests, and that they had just come from the Catholic Church. I looked inside the bar, and on a shelf on the left hand side I saw two glasses which had contained beer, and the froth was running down the inside. I called the landlord's son's attention to the glasses, and he said that one had had a bottle of lemonade with him and the other had had a glass of ale. I asked him if the landlord was in; he said, “Yes,” and at my request he called the landlord up to us from down stairs. I asked the landlord if he knew anything about the two men being there, and he said, “No, he knew nothing of them whatever, and he did not know they were there.” I told him I should take the names of the two men and that I should report the case to the Superintendent. I drew his attention to the glasses that were on the shelf and told him what his son had said. I took the men's names and addresses, and advised them to leave the house, which they did.

Cross-examined by Mr. Martyn Mowll: I had passed the Catholic Church before coming up Dieu Stone lane to the Market Place. I saw a great many soldiers going there, and there were a great many standing outside, not being able to get in. I did not see the two sergeants who are here walk up Pencester Road. When I first saw them walking towards the “Fountain” they were on the side of the big lamp. The other young man was not with them. I saw no one with them. It struck me when I saw the two men open the door, “I should think the door has been left open for them or somebody else.” When I followed the two sergeants in I could not say whether they had taken their hats off or not. Constable Bass went in with me.

Police-constable John Bass said: On Sunday morning the 21st of August, I was on duty in the Market Square about 9.15. I saw the two sergeants coming down Cannon Street before Police-constable Fogg spoke to me. I was standing at the corner of the “Walmer Castle Inn.” They turned round the corner by the “Fountain.” Police-constable Fogg told me that they had gone into the house by the King Street entrance, and I went into the house with Police-constable Fogg.

Cross-examined by Mr. Martyn Mowll: I had been at the “Walmer Castle” about five or ten minutes. I did not know the sergeants. I had not known the landlord's son except by sight until that morning. There were no civilians with the sergeants when they came down Cannon Street. I heard Fogg give his evidence. The sergeants had their helmets off when we went into the house. Mr. Pryer's son was standing inside the bar and I did not notice whether he wore a hat or not. I heard Fogg question Mr. Pryer, and he said he did not know the men and did not know that they were in the house. He did not tell Fogg they were friends; he said he did not know anything about them.

Mr. Martyn Mowll said he was instructed to say on behalf of Mr. Pryer and his son that the fact of the two sergeants being in the house, and that liquor was drunk, was not disputed. The parties before the Bench were also in a highly respectable position, and if they committed an offence it would be a serious thing for them. Mr. Pryer had been at the “Fountain” eighteen months. He had occupied a good position in life. It was only owing to depression in agriculture that had made it necessary that he should take an hotel. The facts, as he was instructed, were that Mr. Pryer's son met these two sergeants, with whom he was intimately acquainted, outside the Catholic Chapel, and the place being crowded they had permission to leave, and they with the landlord's son walked up Pencester Road and down Biggin Street to the “Fountain Hotel,” where he asked them to come in, and he gave the one a glass of beer and the other a bottle of lemonade. The question was whether these men were there as friends of Mr. Pryer, or whether the relationship of landlord and customer existed between them. He should bring evidence to prove that they were private friends, and he thought the bench would have no difficulty in dismissing the case.

Robert William Ambrose Pryer said: I am the son of Mr. Pryer, the landlord of the “Fountain Hotel.” I know both these sergeants intimately. I am in the East Kent Volunteers. Sergeant Murray has been teaching me signalling for some time. I had dined at the sergeants' mess on the previous Friday at the invitation of Sergeant Murray. Sergeant Aherne and his wife have often called at the “Fountain” together as friends. On this Sunday, 21st of August, I was going to the Roman Catholic Chapel. I got there for four or five minutes after nine o'clock. Lieutenant Hill, of the Buffs, was the officer in command. The Chapel was quite full when the Royal Munster Fusiliers were inside. I passed a party by Adley's, who was being marched back by an officer. Some of that party were remaining at the Church when I got back. I stood outside a little while but we could not get near the door, so I started back with Sergeant Murray, and Sergeant Aherne joined us. I asked the two men to go in with me. When they got inside I asked what they were going to have, and Murray said a glass of lemonade and Ahern said a glass of beer. The men did not pay, and I never expected them to pay for it. I told the constable that they were personal friends of mine. My father was not there, but at the request of Constable Fogg I called him. Fogg asked my father if he knew the men, and my father said he did not know they were there, but that they were friends of his and mine.

Cross-examined by Mr. Knocker: How long have you been learning signalling?

Ever since I have been in the Volunteers, but not all the time.

Has anyone taught you except Sergeant Murray?

Yes, a corporal in the artillery.

You say you have dined at the sergeant's mess previous to Friday.

How many times before that?

More than a dozen times.

Were you always the guests of Sergeant Murray?

Sometimes his guest and sometimes the guest of others.

Did Sergeant Murray frequently come to your house?

Yes.

And what time did he usually come?

Generally in the evening.

Did he stay after closing hours?

No, never.

Has he ever been in the house during closed hours before?

Never before.

Did Sergeant Ahern often come to your house?

Yes, and his wife.

It is said she went into the private apartments. I suppose she had the run of the house?

No, not exactly, but when Sergeant Ahern and his wife called they went into our private room and were treated as our friends.

What service do you usually go to at the Chapel?

Nine o'clock.

Do you go every Sunday?

No. I have missed a few times.

Is the place always full?

It has since the new Colonel of the Munsters has been here.

Did you walk between the sergeants from Church?

No, I walked on the side of Murray.

Have you ever given the men drinks before?

We have been in the habit of treating each other.

Sometimes they pay for beer in your house, do they not?

Yes, if they ordered it in the usual way.

Mr. Pryer, the defendant, was next told to go into the witness box to give evidence for the defence.

The Magistrates consulted with their Clerk.

Mr. Knocker said that as the evidence of his son had put quite a different complexion upon the case, he would withdraw the charge.
Mr. Brown: We are very glad you have withdrawn it. You have exercised a very wise discretion.

 

From the Dover Express and East Kent News, Friday, 12 June, 1890. Price 1d.

A DRUNKEN WOMEN

Mary Elizabeth Tiffeths was charged with being drunk, disorderly, and using obscene language in the Market Square.

Mr. R. W. Pryer, who keeps the “Fountain Inn,” Market Square, said that the prisoner came into his house on Tuesday night between six and seven o'clock. he ordered her out of the house twice, and when she came a third time, she would not leave when ordered to do so. Police-constable Brace was called, and with difficulty removed her from the house.

The prisoner was fined 2s. 6d., without costs, or in default seven days hard labour, and was allowed until Thursday to pay the fine.

 

From the Dover Express and East Kent News, Friday, 2 October, 1891. Price 1d.

THE POLICE AS CHUCKER OUT

Henry Woodcock was also charged with being drunk and disorderly.

Police-constable Hughes proved the case. The man was drunk and noisy in the “Fountain,” and the constable, at the landlord's request, moved him outside, and eventually to the Police Station.

The prisoner was fined half-a-crown. He protested that he had no money, but the Police, who had searched him, reported the finding of 2s. 8¼d. in his breeches pockets, consequently justice was satisfied, leaving a balance of 2½d. to be carried to the next account.

 

From the Dover Express and East Kent News, Friday, 3 July, 1896.

NEGLECT OF A CHILD

Joseph Sedgwick, a labourer, and Georgina Sedgwick were summoned at the instance of the National Society for prevention of Cruelty to Children for neglecting in a manner to cause unnecessary suffering and injury to health, a child, Winifred Rogers, aged 5 months, of which they had charge, in the month of May last.

Mr. A. M. Bradshaw appeared for the Society.

Mrs. Alice Rogers, a married woman, living apart from her husband, said she came to Dover last February with her two children, which she put out to nurse. The one in question was placed with a Mrs. Egan till the end of April, and then as she was unable to take charge of it any longer Mrs. Sedgwick was given the charge of it. A fortnight after she had it witness noticed a change for the worse in the child, and complained about its condition. Witness subsequently, on the 30th May, obtained another nurse, a Mrs. Marlow. The latter on receiving the child brought it to where she was in service, the “Fountain Hotel,” and drew witness's attention to the child which was thin.

Mrs. Marlow, a widow, who said she had several times taken charge of children for Miss Hoare, said that when she received the infant from Mrs. Sedgwick, its clothes were in a filthy condition, the body was so dirty that when she washed the skin came off in parts, and the hair had to be cut off in matted lumps from the head. The child was in such a starved condition that it had not strength to move its hands and legs.

Mrs. Sedgwick denied this.

Inspector Darkins also gave evidence as to the state of the child. On the 1st June he saw it when it was very emaciated. It weighed only 10lbs.

Miss Hoare also gave evidence in corroboration.

This closed the case for the prosecution.

The Bench held that the man Sedgwick could not he held responsible, and dismissed the charge against him.

Mrs Sedgwick elected to be dealt with summarily. She called, Mrs. Lewry, her mother, who deposed that when her daughter received the child, it was very thin and seemed dazed. It afterwards improved. She considered it was clean when it was taken from her daughter's care.

Joseph Sedgwick said he had seen his wife change the child's clothing. She did the best she could for the child.

The bench considered the case proved against the female defendant, and fined her £1, including costs.

 

From the Dover Express and East Kent News, Friday, 13 March, 1908.

THE FOUNTAIN ALTERATIONS

NOT ENOUGH DOORS FOR THE CUSTOMERS

At the Dover Police Court on Friday, before Messrs. M. Pepper, T. A. Terson, and H. W. Thorpe, Mr. Rutley Mowll applied for the approval to alterations to the Fountain Hotel, Market Square. He said it was proposed to take away a back staircase which divided the two bars, and put it on one side. This alteration would do away with the necessity of having two persons to serve the bars. There was one other alteration. At present the jug and bottle department had no separate accommodation, customers having to go into one of the bars. To obtain this a special door had been provided. It was very necessary to have a separate entrance, as children were often sent for liquor in sealed bottles.

The Chairman: It won't be long before children are not allowed in public houses, at all.

Mr. Mowll: You have more knowledge of the intentions of the Legislature than I have.

The Chairman: Of course.

The Chairman said he must be clear. There was a new entrance proposed, immediately adjoining the London and County Bank, from which, it was only separated by a party wall. As for the rest, it was practically a re-construction of the premises. How much were the alterations going to cost?

Mr. Mowll said the architect, Mr. Reeve, had just arrived. "Blucher turned up to the assistance of Wellington" he termed his arrival.

The Chairman: Would it not be better to say "Blooker"? (Laughter.)

Mr. Reeve said the cost would be £180 to £200.

The Chairman: It is a remarkably cheap job! I must remember this. It looks a lot of work for a little money.

Mr. Reeve: I have the estimate.

The Chairman: How many doors have you on the premises?

Mr. Reeve: Three now. We propose to have four.

Mr. Mowll: As Mr. Reeve has said, the real object of the alteration id the supervision of the bars, so that one person can serve the two.

The Chairman: Trade is so good in Dover that you want another door for customers to come in?

Mr. Reeve: The object is to reduce the expenses.

After the Bench had retired for a few minutes the Chairman asked if the applicant could amend the plan to do away with the fourth door next the London and County bank.

Mr. Mowll: If you wish it.

The Chairman said if that were not done the application would not be granted. They thought that three entrances to one public house in the present state of the licensed trade was enough.

Mr. Mowll said the plans would be altered as suggested.

 

 

Its neighbour, the London, County and Westminster Bank, seemed to attract the money more than the inn and when they wished to enlarge the bank in 1913 by absorbing the corner site, the brewer accepted their offer. Apparently trade had declined since 2,000 soldiers of the York and Lancaster Regiment had left.

 

From the Dover Express and East Kent News, Friday, 7 February, 1913. Price 1d.

MARKET SQUARE ALTERATIONS

We understand that while the arrangements for the pulling down of the “Fountain Hotel,” to form part of the London County and Westminster Bank, are in progress, negotiations are likely to take place for effecting an improvement on the Market Square, setting back the frontage of the “Duchess of Kent,” and the “Walmer Castle” on a line with the Museum. The lessees of the “Duchess of Kent” are the East Kent Brewery Co., and of the “Walmer Castle,” Messrs. Leney and Co.
 

Fountain Hotel 1879

Above photo taken 1879.

SEVENTY years ago this was the corner of the Market Square and King Street. The tall building on the left is the former London County and Westminster Bank. On the corner is the old Fountain Hotel, the site of which was acquired to extend the bank. In those days there was a passage about a yard wide between the old hotel and the adjoining Duchess of Kent public house.

 

From the Dover Times, 17 July, 1913.

AN EYESORE

It was decided, on the initiative of Alderman Bussey, to write to the London County and Westminster Bank, asking them to place a board on the "Fountain Hotel" in the Market-square, stating that the premises had been acquired for the proposed extension of the bank. The Alderman thought the present state of the property was not an advertisement to Dover, and if such a board was placed there, people coming into the town would see what the premises was intended for.

 

Appeared in the Dover Express on 5 June 2003. By Bob Hollingsbee.

Fountain 1903

THEY certainly knew how to decorate the streets to celebrate in Dover in the Edwardian era.

This postcard view, shown to me by a Memories reader with a fine collection of old views, appears to have been taken from Igglesden & Graves' old restaurant and bakery now Dickens cafe - about 1913.

The camera man was looking towards King Street, with the old Fountain Hotel, just right of centre. which adjoined the former Walmer Castle pub.

I am informed that this was actually a shot taken on 6th July 1903 and was part of a parade for  the visit of Emile Francois Loubet the 8th President of France.

Fountain 1903

Parage outside Fountain Hotel 1914

Above postcard circa 1914 showing troops parading the town.

Fountain Hotel

Above picture by kind permission Dover Library ILL/1117 date unknown.

Information below taken from John Bavington Jones' book "A Perambulation of the Town, Port and Fortress of Dover", 1906. (Reprint in The South Kent Gazette, June 27th, 1979.)

Fountain Hotel

A VIEW of the Market Square, looking into King Street, taken during a procession through streets lined with spectators, many standing on farm carts suggesting it was market day. Young sailors marched alongside an old Dover lifeboat, drawn by a team of six horses, followed by members of Dover Friendly Society. Tramway standards date the picture as post-1896. (Possibly 1901). Pictured on the corner of King Street is Burton's Fountain Hotel and, next door, the Duchess of Kent Inn. One sign on the Fountain advertises "MacDonald's Teeth Guaranteed.

 

 

LICENSEE LIST

KNOCKER Joseph 1730-55 1 Oct

TOMS George June 1 Oct 1755-65 dec'd Kentish Gazette 1755

WHITE John Jan/1765+

HOOPER Thomas January 1772+

BOTTLER Thomas to Mar/1791 dec'd

BUTLER Mrs 1791-92+ Dover and Deal Directory and Guide 1792 (wife of above, spelling error)

GRANT Thomas 1805

BROCKMAN John 1823 Pigot's Directory 1823

REYNOLDS Richard 1839 Pigot's Directory 1828-29Pigot's Directory 1839

COULTARD John 1840 Pigot's Directory 1840

WOOD 1844-46+ Dover Telegraph

JUDGE Joseph 1847 Bagshaw's Directory 1847

Last pub licensee hadFILMER William 1851-52+ Census

GOLDSMITH 1852

JONES 1865

PARAMOUR 1865

SAVILLE William Mar-July/1870 Dover Express

PAIN Charles July/1870-78 Post Office Directory 1874Dover Express

St. JOHN  William Sept/1878-May/79 Dover Express

EASTLEY Robert May/1879-80 end Dover Express

WINGROVE Mrs Louisa 1880-Jun/82 Dover ExpressPost Office Directory 1882

BIRCH Mr J C Jun/1882+ Dover Express

FILMER W J Sept/1884-85 end

JOHNSON John Irish to Sept/1885 Dover Express

WILLSON J Sept/1885+ Dover Express (Late of 30, Harrington Square, London)

PRYER Joseph 1886 end

PRYER Robert William A 1887-90+

WILLIAM Robert 1891 Post Office Directory 1891

PRYER R 1895 Pikes 1895

BURTON Luther 1899-Dec/1903 Kelly's Directory 1899Post Office Directory 1903Post Office Directory 1903Dover Express

DALTON George Herbert Dec/1903-07 end Dover Express

WHITING Walter 1907-Jan/12 Dover Express

WURZ/WURTZ Henry William Jan/1912-13 end Next pub licensee had Dover Express

 

Kentish Gazette 1755Kentish Gazette 1755

Dover and Deal Directory and Guide 1792Dover and Deal Directory and Guide 1792

Pigot's Directory 1823From the Pigot's Directory 1823

Pigot's Directory 1828-29From the Pigot's Directory 1828-9

Pigot's Directory 1839From the Pigot's Directory 1839

Pigot's Directory 1840From the Pigot's Directory 1840

Bagshaw's Directory 1847From Bagshaw Directory 1847

Post Office Directory 1874From the Post Office Directory 1874

Post Office Directory 1882From the Post Office Directory 1882

Post Office Directory 1891From the Post Office Directory 1891

Pikes 1895From Pikes Dover Blue Book 1895

Kelly's Directory 1899From the Kelly's Directory 1899

Post Office Directory 1903From the Post Office Directory 1901

Post Office Directory 1903From the Post Office Directory 1903

Dover ExpressFrom the Dover Express

Dover TelegraphFrom the Dover Telegraph

 

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