30 Snargate Street and Northampton Street
Dover
This was the neighbour of the "Gothic" and the "Invicta"
stood opposite. An outlet of Flint, it had another entrance from Northampton
Street but that was discontinued from 1915.
From the Dover Express and East Kent Intelligencer,
11 September, 1868.
THE ANNUAL LICENSING DAY
THE GRAND SULTAN, SNARGATE STREET
William Henry Stiles applied for a license to this house, which, Mr.
Coram said, had all the necessary requirements, whilst the good
character of the applicant was beyond all question.
Mr. Fox, while stating that there could be no personal objection to
the applicant, who was known to be a most respectable man, opposed on
the ground of the number of licensed houses within sixty yards of the
"Grand Sultan," but the license was granted.
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Stiles received a new licence in 1868 and five a.m.
opening was allowed from 1881. Some of you will have an interest in the
licensees and it might be opportune here to say that Mrs. Mary Ann Taylor
remarried at this pub in 1902 and became Mrs. Hunt.
From the Dover Express and East Kent News, Friday, 22 July, 1870.
DRUNK AND DISORDERLY
Emma Ransley, a dashingly-dressed young lady, was charged with having
been drunk and disorderly and having caused an obstruction in Snargate
Street on the previous afternoon.
Police-constable George Swaine said that on the previous (Sunday)
afternoon a little before three o'clock, he saw the prisoner on the
footway in Snargate Street, near the “Grand Sultan” public-house. She
was drunk, and was stopping every person who passed. He went to her and
cautioned her, and she then went into the “Warrior” public-house. She
remained there a few minutes, when she returned to the street, and
behaved in the same manner as before. He then took her into custody and
conveyed her to the police-station.
The prisoner had nothing to say in her defence. She had come from
Shorncliff, she said, on Saturday, she was drinking a great deal that
day, and she had unfortunately not sufficiently recovered her sobriety
to behave herself properly when she was found by the policeman. She
prayed the clemency of the Bench, and assured the Magistrates that, if
she were dismissed now, they should never see here again.
In reply to the Mayor, Superintendent Coram said that the prisoner had
appeared before the Bench on two previous occasions charged with like
offences.
The prisoner said the last time she was before the Magistrates was more
than six months ago; and she hoped this would not be remembered against
her.
The Mayor said that on the previous occasions when she had been charged
with drunkenness, her conduct had been equally bad as it had been shown
to have been on this. Such proceedings could not be permitted,
especially on Sundays, when people were passing through the public
thoroughfares on their way to the different places of worship. She would
be fined 5s. and 6s. costs; or, in default, committed to prison for
seven days.
The prisoner said she must go to gaol.
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From the Dover Express and East Kent News, Friday, 19 August, 1870.
A STREET FIGHT INTERRUPTED
John Cullen, a stone mason, was brought up by Police-constable Bowles,
charged with being drunk and disorderly, and fighting with another man
in Northampton Street, at twelve o'clock the preceding night.
Bowles said he was on duty near the Post Office about twelve o'clock on
the previous night, when he heard a disturbance in front of the “Grand
Sultan” public-house, the back entrance to which is about he centre of
Northampton Street, the front entrance being in Snargate Street. He went
to the spot, and as he approached he saw two men stripped and fighting.
The prisoner was one of them. The friends of the second man, as soon as
they saw witness approaching, dragged him into the public-house; but the
prisoner remained. A crowd was collected, and witness therefore ordered
the prisoner away. Having put on his clothes under cover of some persons
near, he still loitered upon the spot; bit witness, fearing that there
might be another breach of the peace, insisted on his going away, and,
as he declined, he ultimately took him into custody. The prisoner had
been drinking; but knew perfectly well what he was about.
The prisoner said he was very sorry for having given the police trouble.
He had been drinking with some other men in the “Grand Sultan,” and, a
quarrel arising, that had adjourned to the street, “to fight it out.”
All was over, however, before the policeman arrived; and had he been
quite sober he should not have hesitated about complying with the
policeman's orders to go away.
Mr. Smith said it was deplorable to fine hard-working intelligent men
like the prisoner squandering their money and ruining their health at
the public-house. A man who had to get up at five or six o'clock in the
morning should have been in bed before midnight. He hoped this would be
a caution to him. He would now be discharged on paying 2s. for the
hearing.
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From the Dover Express and East Kent News, Friday, 4 November, 1870.
WILFUL DAMAGE
William Stewart, a private in the 17th Brigade Royal Artillery, was
charged with being drunk and disorderly, and wilfully breaking a pane of
glass of value 30s., the property of Mr. Penn, in Northampton Street.
Police-constable Bowles deposed: About twenty minutes before twelve last
night, I was on duty in Northampton Street, and saw the prisoner with
two more soldiers come out of the “Grand Sultan” public-house, in that
street. I stopped above Mr. Penn's widow. I do not know which of the
three soldiers broke it. They then ran away. I went down the street and
met them. I walked by their side talking to them as far as the bottom of
Townwall Street, where I took the prisoner into custody, and the other
two ran away. He went quietly to the station. On his way there he said
to me, “I did not break the window, policeman; it was one of the
others.” He was not drunk. I then took him to the station, where he said
he did not break it, but that Gunner Jackson did.
The Magistrates considered the evidence insufficient to convict the man,
and he was discharged; but the Bench, at the same time, granted an
application for a summons against Jackson.
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From the Dover Express and East Kent News, Friday, 25 November, 1870.
OBTAINING BY FALSE PRETENCES
Elen Hopper, a young woman who had recently been living as a servant at
the “Grand Sultan” public house in Snargate Street, was charged with
obtaining sundry articles of grocery, the property of Messrs. Bottle and
Gandy, by false pretences.
Benjamin Merralls said he was an assistant in the employ of Messrs.
Bottle and Gandy, grocers, carrying on business in Snargate Street. On
Saturday afternoon the prisoner entered the shop, apparently in a great
hurry, and asked him to make haste and serve her with a quarter of a
pound of tea, as her mistress, Mrs. Styles, wanted to make tea for some
gentlemen immediately and was waiting for it. In consequence of what she
said she weighed her a quarter of a pound of tea, which he gave to her,
and asked her if she wanted anything else. She then asked for a pound of
sugar and half a pound of butter. When served with the butter she said
she had forgotten to bring the plate across; so must put that in her
pocket. (A laugh.) In consequence of what she said witness believed the
whole of the things were for her mistress, Mrs. Styles. He knew she had
been living at the “Grand Sultan” as servant.
Elizabeth, wife of William Henry Styles, landlord of the “Grand Sultan,”
said her house was in Snargate Street, a little lower than Messrs.
Bottle and Gandy's, on the opposite side of the way. The prisoner had
been living at her house as servant; but she was not there on Saturday.
Witness had discharges her on the previous Thursday. Witness did not
authorise her to go to Messrs. Bottle and Gandy's on Saturday and get
any grocery.
Police-sergeant Bailey said that, in consequence of information given at
the station-house, he went in search of the prisoner, and found her at
the “Prince Albert” public-house, Biggin Street, about six o'clock on
Saturday evening. He told her what she was charged with, and she denied
knowing anything about it, and said she had not been in Snargate Street
that day. He took her to the station-house, where the charge was entered
by the Superintendent and read over to her, when she said, “I had the
things; you will find them at the “Prince Albert.” Witness went there
and found the articles of grocery produced – a quarter of a pound of
tea, a pound of sugar, and half a pound of butter.
The witness Merralls was called forward; but he was of course unable to
identify the articles produced as those with which he had supplied the
prisoner. He said, however, that they were all done up in the same
description of paper, and that he believed them to be the same.
The prisoner having been cautioned in the usual manner, said she had
nothing to offer in defence; and she was then committed for trial at the
next Quarter Sessions.
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From the Dover Express and East Kent News, Friday, 3 November, 1871. Price 1d.
IMPUDENT ROBBERY
Richard Jackson was charged with stealing from the person of George
Terry, at the “Grand Sultan,” in Snargate Street, a silver watch, worth
about £3, and 2s. in money, his property.
The prosecutor said he went into the “Grand Sultan” about half-past ten
o'clock the previous evening, and feeling tired lay down and went to
sleep on one of the seats. About an hour afterwards the landlord woke
him up, and he was going to see what time it was, when he found his
watch gone, the silver chain to which it was suspended being still
hanging about his neck. Two or three shillings he had loose in his
pocket, before he went to sleep, were also gone, and his purse was lying
empty on the floor. Before he lay down to go to sleep, there was no one
in the room; but when the landlord woke him up the prisoner was there.
He asked the prisoner if he had taken his watch, and he replied, “No.”
From something the landlord told him, he afterwards went for a
policeman, and gave Jackson into custody.
William Henry Styles, the landlord of the “Grand Sultan,” said that
shortly after ten o'clock on the previous night, he had the occasion to
pass through the room, where he saw prosecutor asleep, on one of the
seats, and the prisoner standing over him, overhauling him. When
prisoner saw him, he walked away in the direction of the bar. About
twenty minutes afterwards Jackson awoke, and came and told him that he
had lost his watch, and on examining the chain, which was still around
his neck, he saw that the swivel had been pulled completely open, as if
by main force. From what he had seen, his suspicions were aroused
against the prisoner, who had been the only person in the room, and he
accused him of knowing something about he watch. Prisoner denied any
knowledge of it. Witness asked him the reason he had pulled the man
about, and the prisoner replied that it was because he believed he was a
man from Kingsdown whom he knew. He afterwards said witness could search
him, and emptied his pockets. There was no watch found upon him; but he
had 2s. 6d. in silver and a few coppers. Witness knew prisoner had no
money with him when he came in. After the time the witness saw prisoner
overhauling prosecutor, he believed he left the house two or three
times.
The case was remanded till Friday.
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From the Dover Express and East Kent Intelligencer,
24 May, 1872. Price 1d.
ONE PINT AND ITS EFFECTS
George Jackson, a labourer, was charged with being drunk and causing
an obstruction of the footway in St, James's Street.
It appeared from the constable's statement that the defendant was
drunk at the bottom of St. James's Street at half-past one the same
morning .The defendant was so drunk that he had to get assistance to
convey him to the police-station.
The defendant said he had only had one pint of beet at the "Grand
Sultan."
Major Crookes, thought inclined to disbelieve the prisoner's
statement, dismissed him on his payment of the costs of the hearing.
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From the Dover Express and East Kent News, Friday, 8 November, 1872. Price 1d.
SERIOUS CHARGE
William Styles, the landlord of the “Grand Sultan” public-house, was
summoned by the captain of a Norwegian ship lying in the harbour, for
receiving a quantity of oats, his property, knowing them to have been
stolen.
Mr. Minter prosecuted, and Mr. Fox defended.
The Bench adjourned the case, on the application of Mr. Fox.
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From the Dover Express and East Kent News, Friday 7 July, 1873.
ALLEGED INFRINGEMENT OF THE LICENSING ACT
William Henry Styles, the landlord of the “Grand Sultan Inn,” Snargate
Street, was charged with having sold intoxicating liquors after the
hours prescribed under the new Licensing Act.
Police-sergeant Johnson deposed: On Saturday morning, the 5th of July,
at about one o'clock, my attention was called by police-constable Bath
to the defendant, who, with another man was carrying some cans of beer
along the quay. I followed them, and I saw them serving out the beer to
some men near the racquet court, and I saw one of the men pay Stiles
some money. When asked, Stiles said the money was for some biscuits and
cheese.
Stiles said the beer was ordered early in the evening and was taken out
of the “Grand Sultan” before half-past eleven.
Mr. Thomas Sutton said he ordered the beer, for a gang of men who were
working under his superintendence, early in the evening. The beer was
brought out before half-past eleven.
The Bench dismissed the case.
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Kentish Gazette 4 January, 1876
CRARGE OF MALICIOUS DAMAGE.
Charles Cox, on bail, was indicted for maliciously damaging the
glass of a window to the amount exceeding £5, the property of Frank
Clark, Snargate Street, on the night of 15th November.
Mr. Murray Richardson appeared for the prosecution, and having
stated the facts of the case, called Thomas Bredreth, 104th
regiment, who deposed that he was on duty as military policemen on
the 15th November, and at about 10.45 he saw the prisoner leave the
"Sultan" public house and walk down Snargate street as far as Mr.
Clark's shop. There were two other men with him and as he got as far
as Mr. Clark's shop he began to throw his arms about a good deal. He
went across the street and struck the window with his hand, smashing
it. The value of the glass was about £20.
The jury after some deliberation found a verdict of "Not Guilty."
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It averaged five barrels weekly when it was declared
redundant in 1915.
Agreed compensation in November that year allotted £10 to
Dover Harbour Board, £538 to the brewer and £142 to the tenant.
From the Dover Express and East Kent News, Friday 16 January, 1885.
ROOK v. FAGGETER – TEA VERSUS BEER
This is a judgement summons, the plaintiff a tea dealer, and the
defendant the keeper of the “Grand Sultan,” public-house, Snargate
Street.
In reply to the Judge, the defendant said: I keep the “Grand Sultan
Inn,” Snargate Street, for Mr. Flint, brewer of Canterbury. I am put in
there to make all I can. I do not pay rent for the place. I sell what I
can at a certain price. I pay Mr. Flint 34s. per barrel for the beer. I
make what I can upon that. I am put in to see if anything can be done
with the house. The license is in my name, but Mr. Flint holds it. I
have been in the house for a little over twelve months. This debt is for
tea supplied to sell again. They pressed me to take the agency, but
there was no trade for it. It is very hard for me to pay anything as I
can hardly pay my expenses.
The Judge: How is it you do not have to pay rent?
Defendant: I pay it by paying a long price for the beer.
The Judge: Who is the freeholder of the house?
Defendant: Mr. Flint, and he supplies the beer.
The Judge: You pay for the beer of course. What else do you pay?
Defendant: I pay 8s. a week for the things in the house and furniture.
The Judge: What are your average takings?
Defendant: The most we take is from 10s. to 12s. per day.
The Judge: You take that, do you, even in this cheerful season. I think
you must pay 10s. a month off this debt.
The plaintiff asked for expenses for coming from London, but they were
not allowed.
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From the Dover Express and East Kent News, 5 February, 1915.
ANNUAL LICENSING METING
THE MAGISTRATES DECISION
The Magistrates then retired to consider their
decision, and on returning the Chairman said that the Magistrates had
decided to give a licence to the "Town Hall" for both music and singing
on condition that free admission was given. The licence of the "Gothic"
and "White Lion" would be renewed. The "Silver Lion," the "Black Horse,"
and the "Grand Sultan" would have to go to Canterbury.
Mr. Mowll said that he understood the Chairman to
say he did not want to hear any more about the "Grand Sultan."
The Chairman: That is what the Bench told me to
say.
Mr. Mowll: That surely cannot be right; it is an
elementary point in all procedure that the evidence is never stopped.
Mr. Chitty: I thought that Mr. Mowll said it was
not worth while for him to say anything more.
Mr. Mowll: I beg pardon. I should not say that I
should not, for instance, expect to convince you that any licence is
wanted. Naturally I should not attempt to do so.
The Chairman: Well, there it is.
Mr. Mowll said that he had some evidence to call
and he thought it would be well that he should call it now.
The Chairman: You will have the opportunity at
Canterbury.
Mr. Mowll after having enquired said that his
witnesses had left. He then proceeded to address the Bench and
pointed out that the house was used by men employed in the coal trade.
The house opened at 6.00 whilst the "Royal Hippodrome" did not open till
9 o'clock, and the men could get coffee and tea, and if they liked a
little rum to put in it. He asked the Bench to recommend the matter.
There had been some misunderstanding as he understood the Chairman to
give a decision in his favour.
The Chairman said that he never intended to convey
that.
Mr. Mowll said that he marked his papers
"renewed."
The Chairman said that they did not want and more
evidence as it was a question of trade. He pointed out that the licence
would continue until the end of the year and Mr. Mowll could tender any
evidence he wished when the case came up before the Justices at
Canterbury.
Mr. Mowll asked if it was fair to his client to
put him to this expense when the object was if the houses had a good
trade Quarter Sessions should not be bothered with them.
The Chairman remarked that he thought he knew that
would happen.
Mr. Mowll said that he did ask the Bench to renew
the licence. he did not want to flog a dead horse. (At this point Mr.
Chitty made some remark which was inaudible on the reporters' bench). He
knew that it was no use addresses Mr. Chitty.
Mr. Chitty: Mr. Mowll you are not justified in
making such remarks. I am here and give my opinion as a Justice and you
are not justified in imputing to me improper motives.
Mr. Mowll: I did not do so, but I do say, with
great difference you are not an unbiased person on the business.
Mr. Chitty: Is there any person unbiased.
The Chairman: I hope I am for one.
Mr. Mowll: You ask me-
Mr. Chitty: You are making very improper remarks.
Mr. Mowll: I have cross-examined you so often on
the very point.
Mr. Chitty said that Mr. Mowll had asked a
question of the Justices and he was entitled to give an answer. Mr.
Mowll asked if these men were to be deprived of an opportunity of
getting tea and coffee. He was aware that there were a number of places
in the immediate vicinity where they could obtain it.
Mr. Mowll: With rum in it? (Laughter.) I say if
they want some rum in it let them have it; that is where we differ.
The Chairman: I think this little question is
closed. We can do nothing further for you until Canterbury.
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From the Dover Express and East Kent News, Friday, 9 July, 1915. Price 1d.
THE GRAND SULTAN
On Wednesday the question of ordering the “Grand Sultan,” Snargate
Street, to be closed and compensated in accordance with the Licensing
Act, 1910, came before the East Kent Compensation Committee, sitting at
the Session House, Canterbury, Mr. Plumptre presiding.
Prior to the Dover case being heard, Mr. Holler, K.C., appearing for the
“Bell Inn,” Sittingbourne, urged that at the present time the
Compensation Authorities should apply the money by investing it in the
War Loan. He declared that by “carrying on business as usual” the Court
were not realizing the very serious crisis through which the country was
going. The Committee, however, disregarded this appeal and ordered the
house to be closed and compensation determined.
In the two other cases remitted to the Authorities by the Dover
Magistrates, the “Silver Lion,” Middle Row, owned by the Dover Town
Council, and the “Black Horse,” Bridge Street, owned by Mrs. Sarah
Dennis of Tower Hamlets, there was no opposition to the cases going to
be compensated and the houses will accordingly be closed later in the
year after compensation has been determined.
Mr. Travers Humphries, instructed by Messrs. Mowll and Mowll, of Dover,
applied for the renewal of the licence of the “Grand Sultan,” Snargate
Street, the licensee of which was Mr. T. H. Weeks, and the owners
Messrs. Flint and Co., Canterbury.
Mr. Shewell Cooper appeared for the Dover Justices in opposition to the
renewal of the licence. He said that the renewal was opposed on the
grounds of redundancy. In Dover there was one licence to 242 persons, so
that it was difficult to say how it could be said that by closing a
public house anyone would be injured I regard to obtaining facilities
for drink. The house had an entrance in Snargate Street and also another
in Northampton Street. The house was practically in two parts, and the
part in worst repair was that with the entrance in Northampton Street,
which was disused, and served only as an entrance to Snargate Street
part from Northampton Street. There were four fully licensed houses in
the neighbourhood. The “Gothic,” next door, a similar house and doing a
good deal larger trade; the “Invicta,” opposite, ten yards off; the
“Avenue,” also opposite, and only twenty seven yards off; and the “Royal
Hippodrome” bar, twenty five yards away. There had been four transfers
since 1906, which was prima facie evidence that it was not
extraordinarily successful.
Edward A. Jackson, clerk to Mr. Hayward, architect and surveyor, said
that he had inspected the premises. The portion of the premises facing
Northampton Street was disused and not in good repair. The sanitary
arrangements for the public were poor.
Cross-examined. He supposed that by not using the Northampton Street
part of the premises the landlord could give better supervision, as
otherwise he would have to leave them without supervision or else employ
two separate people. The Northampton Street premises required doing up.
Re-examined. The sanitary arrangements were poor from the point of view
of requiring repairs and also from a sanitary point of view. Its present
state was insanitary.
Chief Constable D. H. Fox said that the figures given as to the
percentage of population per public house was on the 1911 census. There
was at least 12,000 additional floating population in Dover. The licence
was transferred to Mr. Weeks in August, 1913; and there were changes in
1911, 1907, and 1906 (twice). The nearest house was the “Gothic,” next
door, which had an entrance both in Snargate Street and Northampton
Street. As regards the trade of the two houses, since the War there had
been a great number of troops in Dover, and this was a street frequented
by them and also the Navy, and the licensed houses in the street were
frequented very much all the evening by these men, and it was difficult
for him to say which was doing the better trade. Before the War the
“Gothic” was doing the better trade. In his opinion, there were
sufficient facilities for the public if this licence were extinguished.
By Mr. Travers Humphries. A very brisk trade at times was done in
connection with the coal boats at the back of these premises in
Northampton Street.
Chief Inspector Lockwood gave evidence of visits to the house on January
22nd, at 10 a.m., there were no customers; on Saturday, January 23rd, at
3 p.m., there were seven customers; on January 25th, at twenty minutes
to five p.m., there were three customers; and on Thursday, January 28th,
at 7.45 p.m., there were 33 customers.
By Mr. Travers Humphries. Both the “Grand Sultan” and the “Gothic” were
doing a very large trade, and if the licence of the “Grand Sultan” were
taken away the trade might be thrown into the house next door. He did
not think that the “Gothic” would be too full. There were other houses in
the immediate vicinity.
Mr. Travers Humphries said that the house was considered, as the report
of the Renewal Authorities stated, in conjunction with the “Gothic,” and
it seemed to be assumed that either one of the licenses should be taken
away. But he contended that there was no reason to take away either
licence. It was a fallacy to say that where there were two houses next
door one was redundant. It depended on the neighbourhood. It was a great
fallacy, as was shown when there was a discussion as to restaurants in
Piccadilly Circus, and it was then said by those who had most knowledge
that a restaurateur always welcomed someone of the same sort coming
close to him, because when the place became known as a centre people
came there. In this case they had two houses close together who did the
same class of trade, having always catered for the very large number of
men employed in unloading coal, and the houses were open for them from 6
o'clock in the morning, and it was desirable that they should have a
house that was convenient for them. The figures of the trade before the
War showed that the “Grand Sultan” was doing a substantial trade that
was not accounted for it merely by passing traffic of Snargate Street,
and which came from the coal yards. At present the hours were limited.
They would have crowded into one house a very large trade if this
licence were taken away. At the present time Mr. Weeks was doing just
seven barrels a week, and the “Gothic” according to the evidence before
the Justices, was doing eight, so that if the enormous trade of fifteen
barrels a week were crowded into the “Gothic” there would not be very
much time for the sale to take place, and he questioned if it would be
in the interests of anyone to take the licence away. As regard the name
of the house, it was not connected with any Sultan with whom they were
at war (laughter). It might possibly be in their minds of the Justices
that the reason it was taken away was because of that (laughter), but it
was named after the Sultan of Zanzibar (laughter). The trade before the
year 1915 was an average of three and a quarter barrels a week, but it
was most unfortunate to take this average, as for the week that Mr. Weekes went in the trade increased. For the year from November, 1913, to
November, 1914, the barrels sold numbered 234, and the spirits 178
gallons. From November, 1914, to June, 1915, the number of barrels sold
were 228, which worked out at 334 barrels per annum. No doubt some of
that was due to the soldiers and sailors in Dover, but a great deal of
it was due to the trade that Mr. Weekes was doing before the War. He
said that he also wanted to deal with the little misunderstanding which
might have been the cause that the “Grand Sultan” found its way to
Canterbury. Mr. Mowll appeared for the licensee, and when he stated the
trade the Chairman of the Licensing Magistrates said that they did not
wish to hear anything more. Mt. Mowll interpreted that as meaning that
the Bench had made up their minds to renew the licence and did not want
to hear any evidence, and it was one of the things that Benches did and
also Judges in the High Courts when they were satisfied and meant to
decide in one's favour. The Magistrates then heard other cases,
including the “Gothic,” and came back and gave their decision against
this house without having heard any of the evidence to be called on the
part of the owners. The Magistrates most fairly said that the evidence
could be called when this was pointed out, but Mr. Mowll having marked
his papers, “Renewed,” let his witnesses go, so that the facts of the
case, through that misunderstanding, were never put before the Justices
at all. He would call that evidence now.
T. H. Weekes, the landlord, produced his books containing the day's
takings since he had gone into the house. In October, 1913, the week's
takings amounted to £16 17s. 6d. last week the takings were £44 10s.
9d.; and the previous weeks' were £42, £38, £44, £48, £41, £50 and £48.
He was doing a very big trade now, and a substantial portion of it was
from the coal men, with whom a good trade was done from 6 a.m., all day
long, till 5.30 p.m. he did this trade before the War broke out as soon
as he begun to know the people. From that time the trade increased. It
was not entirely due to the War. Last week he did close on eight
barrels, and yesterday he did nine barrels, 40 dozen small bottle, and
20 crates. One of the barrels he had to buy in Dover not from his
regular brewer.
Mr. Shewell Cooper said that from £16 in October, 1913, the weeks
takings only appeared to have increased to £18 or £20 in April, 1914.
Did he suggest there was any material increase before the War?
There was £5 a week; that is very nice.
Mr. Shewell Cooper; And now we have £49.
Re-examined: he was getting a very good living and was anxious to stay.
He was making a good living from the trade he did before the War or else
he should have asked the brewers to find him another house (laughter).
Mr. Kempton, a representative of Messrs. Flint and Co,. said that,
including the bottled beer, the trade done was from November, 1911, to
November, 1912, 101 barrels; 1912 to 1913, 155 barrels; 1913 to 1914,
234 barrels; and from November, 1914, to June, 1915, 228 barrels.
Mr. Barron, clerk to Messrs. Mowll and Mowll, said that the spirit book
showed that the spirits sold in 1911 were 36 gallons; 1912, 20 gallons;
1913, 62 gallons; 1914, 178 gallons; and for the five months to May this
year, 149¼ gallons.
Mr. J. Ingleton, secretary and manager to Messrs. Bussey and Co., coal
merchants, Northampton Street, said that he had known the neighbourhood
43 years, and lived in Northampton Street, 29 years. The coal trade in
Northampton Street employed 200 or more men, and the “Grand Sultan” and
the “Gothic” were the two houses used by these men. He thought that the
trade of these men would support two houses. They were also used for
lavatory purposes. They were allowed a quarter of an hour off at 10
o'clock and at 3 o'clock to get refreshments. It was desirable that they
should have these houses to go to close to their work, or otherwise they
would have to go after them to find them (laughter).
Mr. Cooper: Do you seriously suggest that if this licence were
extinguished there was not accommodation for these men in the “Gothic”
and “Royal Hippodrome” bars?
The “Royal Hippodrome” bar does not open till 9 a.m., and if 100 men
were to go into one house at one time there would not be much chance of
them being served in a quarter of an hour.
Re-examined. It was very desirable to keep them men in Northampton
Street.
Mr. Hatcher, hall porter at the “Burlington Hotel,” said that he resided
at Folkestone, and used the house when he arrived in the early morning,
and he found that the house was used almost entirely during the daytime
by the coal men.
The Chairman, after consulting for a short time with the Committee, said
the application for the renewal was refused. The house will be closed.
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LICENSEE LIST
STILES William Henry 1868-77 end
HOBDAY William 1877
GREGORY Daniel Nov/1877+
LANE William Thomas Feb/1877-81+
age 57 in 1881)
WILDEN 1882?
SHILSON George Richard 1881-Jan/83 (age 30 in 1881)
WELLARD William Jan/1883
(of
Wateringbury)
SCOTT John to Jan/1884
FAGGETTER Louis Jan/1884-85
O'SHEA Jeremiah 1885
SWEENEY George Steers 1886-95 (age 53 in 1891)
MUIR John Brown 1895
SWEENEY Mrs Julia 1895 end
BAKER J to Jan/1897
ANDERTON J H Jan/1897+
SAYERS William 1897-99
(
Out dated info?)
TAYLOR Mrs Mary Ann 1899-1903
HUNT Mrs Mary Ann 1902-Dec/03
HUNT James Dec/1903-Jan/06
SHERWOOD Alfred Jan/1906+ (Licensed victuallar of Wraysbury, Bucks.)
HUMPHRIES Richard Sept/1906-07 end
(Formerly
a ship's steward)
MONCK William James or H J 1907-11 end
MEDHURST James 1911-13 end
WEEKS Thomas Henry 1913-15 end
From the Post Office Directory 1874
From the Post Office Directory 1882
From the Post Office Directory 1891
From Pikes Dover Blue Book 1895
From the Kelly's Directory 1899
From the Post Office Directory 1901
From the Post Office Directory 1903
From the Kelly's Directory 1903
From the Post Office Directory 1913
From the Dover Chronicle
From the Dover Express
Census
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