Always referred to as an alehouse from as early as 1855 to its latest
known entry in 1909 from the Deal Licensing records.
Regarded as a lodging house in Deal close to the railway station and
situated next door to the "Jolly Sailor."
From 1864 to at least 1870 the pub was supplied by Robert
Worthington of the Maxton Brewery, Dover, who in 1870 applied for
1906 saw the end of this pub when the Compensation Committee stated that
it did a poor trade and another four houses were to be found with 270 yards.
The pub shut and the house was referred to as "Maxton House" until at least
The building has now been demolished and a private house built on the
From the Dover Express and East Kent News, Friday 1
CHARGE OF FELONY
Jane Campbell, the girl committed upon the previous day upon two
charges of felony, was brought up from the prison and charged with
stealing a dress and other articles, the property of Ann Pickering.
The prosecutrix, who was a prostitute, said she lived at the "Maxton
Arms," West Street, Deal. The prisoner has been lodging at the same
house for a few days. Last Friday night she missed from her bedroom a
dress, a skirt of a dress, and several other articles of wearing apparel
and pieces of jewellery, which she mentioned in detail. The prosecutrix
identified a dress and other articles produced by police-sergeant Smith
as her property. She last saw them on Friday night. The prisoner slept
in the same room as her, but left the house on Friday night. She missed
the things about three quarters or an hour after the prisoner had left.
She valued the stolen property at 16s.
Police-constable Smith said in consequence of information received he
went to the "Crown" public-house, St. James's Street, on Saturday night,
and as a result the landlady, Mrs. Fox, delivered to him a bundle left
there the previous day by the prisoner, and which contained the whole of
the articles now produced, with the exception of a brooch. He
subsequently went to the "Great Gun,"
public-house, Adrian Street, where a witness named Ovenden handed him a
brooch and a collar, saying that they had been given to her by the
prisoner. The landlady's daughter, a child of about five or six years of
age, also gave him a pair of ear-rings, produced, which she said she had
received from the prisoner. While in custody at the station-house upon
three other charges, the prisoner said the article were her property,
and the dress she had bought and paid for. He had not been able to
recover the whole of the articles stolen.
Elizabeth Fox, the landlady of the "Crown," said the prisoner came
into the bar of her house between three and four o'clock on Saturday
afternoon, and handing her a bundle asked her to take care of it for a
short time, at the same time saying she wished to some one would put a
top to the dress for her. A person in the bar offered to do so, and the
prisoner then gave her the dress produced, which she took away, but
brought it back again about five with the top on. It was then handed to
the prisoner, who shortly afterwards left the house. On the constable
calling upon witness in reference to the robbery, she searched for the
bundle, and found it in one of the top bedrooms. She did not open the
bundle, but handed it immediately to the police-officer. She did not see
the prisoner go upstairs.
Elizabeth Ovenden, living at the "Great Gun,"
Adrian Street, said the prisoner came into that house about ten o'clock
on Saturday morning, and asked witness if she could stop there. She told
her she did not know, and the prisoner then asked her to let her go
upstairs to wash. She allowed her to do so, and carried up a bundle
belonging to her. After washing herself the prisoner went into the
tap-room and stopped there until about two o'clock, when she went out,
taking with her a skirt of a dress. While in the tap-room the prisoner
opened her bundle, and witness saw in it several articles now produced,
with the exception of the dress. The prisoner gave her the brooch and
The prisoner: No, I lent it you because you were going out.
Examination continued: Witness afterwards delivered the brooch and
collar to the policeman.
The defendant in reply to the charge, said two collars found among
articles produced were her own property. All of the things did not
belong to her, but she did not steal the dress.
The prisoner was committed for trial upon this charge also. The
prisoner, it was stated, was convicted at this Court about two years
From the Deal, Walmer & District and Kingsdown
Telegram, 20 January, 1864.
Freehold Public House
"Maxton Arms," near the Railway Station, frontage to road 54'-0" and
with garden Ground and Stabling let to George Chamer, Brewer, Maxton
near Dover and his under-tenant T. Stickells.
From the Deal, Walmer & District and Kingsdown
Telegram, 23 January, 1864.
"Maxton Arms" near "Jolly Sailor"
sold for £300.
From the Deal, Walmer, and Sandwich Mercury,
6 March, 1869. 1d.
APPLICATION FOR TRANSFER
On Thursday last, David Simpson, the landlord of the "Maxton Arms,"
applied for permission to transfer his license to Mr. George Cawthorne,
but it then transpiring that the man Cawthorne had been before the
Magistrates for drunkenness and assaulting the police, and some doubt
having also been expressed as to whether he was really a married man,
the Magistrates decided to adjourn the case till Thursday, when they
requested him to attend and produce his marriage certificate.
On appearing this morning, Cawthorne said he had not brought his
marriage certificate, and he did not consider the Magistrates had any
right to request it production or in any way question him upon the
The Magistrates said that of course it was their duty to see that no
license was granted for the opening of a house that was likely to
endanger public morals, and of the man refused to clear up any doubts
that existed as to his moral character they were justified in assuming
that he was not a married man, but was merely cohabiting with the woman,
to whom he said he was married. They should therefore decline to grant
Cawthorne seemed much annoyed at the decision of the Bench, but
said little in answer to the charge, and soon took his departure from
From the Deal, Walmer, and Sandwich Mercury,
13 March, 1869. 1d.
BOROUGH PETTY SESSIONS
The Magistrates present at these sessions on Thursday were the Mayor,
J. Iggulden, Esq., and Ald. Cavell; but there were no cases requiring
their decision. Mr. D. Simpson, the late landlord of the "Maxton Arms,"
was in attendance, however, and wished to know his exact position with
regard to the license of the above house, the Bench having refused to
allow it to be transferred to the person he had made arrangements with.
Simpson informed the Magistrates that he had entirely removed from the
house, and intended leaving the town, but had been given to understand
that he was still answerable for the good conduct of the house, and he
should therefore like to have their advice in the matter. The
Magistrates considered that as applicant had left the house altogether
he could hardly be held responsible, and advised him to have his name
erased from over the door. They said that of course, if the man
Cawthorne carried on the business surreptitiously without a license, he
would be liable to be punished. Simpson then thanked their worships and
From the Deal, Walmer, and Sandwich Mercury,
12 June, 1869. 1d.
TO BE LET
THE "MAXTON ARMS," Deal.
Apply to Robert Worthington, Maxton Brewery, near Dover.
From the Deal, Walmer, and Sandwich Mercury,
21 May, 1870. 1d.
FATAL RESULT OF A QUARREL
On Saturday last G. Mercer, Esq., the Borough Coroner, held an
inquest, at the Town-hall, on the body of Thomas Christy, landlord of
the "Maxton Arms," who died shortly after midnight on Thursday, and
whose death, it was alleged, had been brought about through injuries
inflicted upon him some days before by Frank Gimber. Mr. J. B. Charmbut
was chosen foreman of the jury, and the following evidence was adduced:-
Eugene Morgan, who said he was a native of Ramsgate and a collector of
forms, was the first witness, and deposed as follows: I am lodging at
the "Maxton Arms" and have been there about three weeks. I have no fixed
abode, and am travelling about the country. I am not present at the
"Maxton Arms" on Sunday, the 1st of May, about one o'clock. I came home
in the evening, but I can't say at what time. I saw the landlord, Thomas
Christy, when I came back. He said he had had a scuffle, and I noticed
that his face was swollen. He did not complain of pain that day, and
walked out for two days afterwards. On the Wednesday following he took
to his bed and complained of shifting pains about the joints of his
knees and elbows - something like the rheumatics. He kept his bed,
except that he was occasionally brought downstairs to the sofa, up to
the time of his death, which took place a little after midnight on the
12th. During the Tuesday before his death I heard him muttering to
himself, "He has done for me," or has "cooked my goose," or words
to that effect. I did not hear anybody's name mentioned .I used to sit
with him occasionally of an evening. Deceased's wife and daughter used
to attend to him. He was in good health up to the 1st of May as far as I
knew. On the evening before his death he spat up several times what I
thought was blood, and he afterwards complained of pains in his throat
and a difficulty of breathing. He complained that his throat was stiff
and sore. I think I saw a man named Frank Gimber with deceased on the
evening of the 1st, and they appeared friendly. It was either on Sunday
or the following Monday, I am not sure which. I hear no complaint made
by Christy as to anything Gimber had done to him. I went out on Sunday,
the 1st of May, between nine and ten o'clock. I saw the landlord before
I went and I think he had been drinking, but I can't say whether he was
drunk or not. I saw his wife also, bit I can't say that his wife had
been drinking. Since the 1st of May I have not seen the deceased drunk.
I did not much notice, as I had my business to attend to.
Catherine Christy deposed: I am the wife of the deceased, Thomas
Christy, living at the "Maxton Arms," in Deal. We have been here almost
eleven months. On Sunday, the 1st of May, I was at home and my husband
was there also. About one o'clock or a few minutes after a man named
Frank or Francis Gimber came with a set of harness and a cart and wanted
my husband to buy them. He said he would not buy them on Sunday, and
said, "Leave them till Monday and I will deal with you." He pressed my
husband very much and said he had no money, and my husband then said he
would advance his 5s. then and pay the remainder on Monday morning.
Gimber said, "All right, my Tom." He brought the things from next door,
and was accompanied by a person named Mackins and a boy. They all came
in to the house and sat down in the tap-room. My husband put the harness
into the bar and went upstairs for the 5s., which he got and gave to
Gimber, who put it in his pocket. The price agreed upon for the harness
was one sovereign, and after a little while Gimber said, "Give me the
rest of the money or I will have the harness. My husband said, "You
shan't have it," and Gimber then ran into the bar and got hold of the
harness, and my husband followed him. Gimber then knocked him down with
his left hand, doubled him over and knelt on him with his two knees on
his thighs and swore he would kill him. He hit him about the head. I
pulled Gimber off and screamed, and my daughter Elizabeth came to my
assistance. Mt husband then got up and Gimber caught him by the throat,
but he was quite helpless and could do nothing. Gimber then threw the
harness to Mackins and the other boy, who ran away with it and put it
into a cart. Gimber then got hold of my husband again and knocked him
down in the passage by the front door. I thought he must have split his
head and killed him by the violent blow which he gave him. He caught
hold of my husband by the throat again this second time and beat him
about the head. He knelt upon his stomach and beat him over the head and
face. I can't say how many times he struck him because he kept on doing
it so fast. I and my daughter at last got him off my husband, and he
threatened me. Between what took place in the bar and what took place in
the passage my husband had not struck Gimber at all; he had not the
power to do so. This I am quite sure of. My husband, after we got Gimber
from him, rolled over and got up on his hands and knees, and went into
the kitchen where Gimber had gone, and he then threw up blood, which ran
down on his shirt, as he had not the power to spit it up. Gimber was
then standing up. My husband stood up and hit Gimber, who fell down. He
got up and caught hold of my husband by the throat again, but he did not
hurt him that time. My husband said, I have seen the day when you would
not do that to me." When Gimber saw the blood he dragged my husband out
of the door and persuaded him to go and have some drink, and said, "Old
Tom, I hope you will take no notice of this. Come, let us go and have
something to drink in the "Jolly Sailor," meaning the "Norfolk Arms."
This was getting on for three o'clock, for they had been knocking about
a good while. My husband was away three-parts of an hour, and when he
came home he laid down on the bench by the door and began to cry. [The
witness was here overcome, and left the room for a few minutes.] On her
return she said: He said, "I think old Frank Gimber has killed me," and
he then dozed off to sleep. My husband had been drinking during the
early part of Sunday and had had two quarts of ale with Gimber before
the row commenced. He was the worse for liquor. Gimber, as far as I
could see, was not the worse for drink. He was quite sober, and was able
to talk very differently to my husband. I have not seen Gimber since. My
husband had been perfectly well up to this Sunday. He had never been ill
at all, but four years ago he had a broken leg, although he was quite
well in constitution. He got up about half-past four on the Sunday
afternoon and tried to make water out, but could not. He had never had
any difficulty as I know of before. On the next day, Monday, he
complained of a pain in the lower part of his stomach and I wanted him
to have a doctor, but he refused, and on that and the next day we were
walking about, but on the Wednesday he was obliged to go to bed again
about ten o'clock in the morning. He did not get up again till his
death, but was brought downstairs occasionally by a man named White. I
don't quite remember what day the doctor came, but he attended my
husband some few days. Dr. Woodman was the doctor. neither my husband (
that I know of) nor myself said anything to Dr. Woodman of what had
taken place on the Sunday, and he was therefore quite unaware of all
this knocking down, &c. My husband told the doctor that he did not know
what his illness was, but said he thought it was rheumatics. My husband
would not let me say anything to the doctor of what took place on the
Sunday, as it would do great harm, and he said he would get up and see
about it himself. I had never had occasion to have a doctor in my life.
My husband died a little after midnight on Thursday. I was present. The
doctor had been to see my husband either twice or three times the day
before his death, and his assistant on the Thursday, but I don't know
whether Dr. Woodman himself came on the Thursday or not. My husband was
about 45 years of age. The doctor was with my husband two or three times
a day sometimes and some days not at all - we were obliged to send for
him. I don't know if he examined my husband as I was not in the room,
but I know he ordered him some leeches for his throat. He spat blood
continually whilst in bed, but I don't know whether the doctor knew this
or not. We have been married 18 or 19 years and I never knew him to have
a fight. I don't know whether he has been a pugilist or not; he has not
since we have been married. After the occurrence on Sunday he coughed a
good deal and spat blood. He had never done that before, nor had he
complained of a difficulty of breathing before that day. On the day
before his death he was much worse, and that was the day he had the
leeches. They were put on his neck and they drew out a large quantity of
congealed blood, and he was much better afterwards. Every night he was
worse about twelve and it was about one, or between twelve and one, in
the daytime before his death that he got worse. He had for some hours
before that had great difficulty in swallowing and breathing - from six
o'clock that morning, in fact. He gradually got worse up to the time of
In answer to one of the Jurors, witness said she was occasionally out
after the Sunday, and Gimber might have called at their house whilst she
was out. She was out sometimes by herself - fetching errands and so on.
[The proceedings were adjourned for an hour, and on the reassembly of
the jury they proceeded to the "Maxton Arms" for the purpose of viewing
the body, which they were unable to do at the opening of the inquest,
owing to the post-mortem examination not being finished.]
On their return Henry Mackins was examined: he said: I live in Gravel
Walk and am a labourer. On Sunday, the 1st of May, I went to the "Maxton
Arms" between two and three o'clock - I can't say exactly what time I
went with my wife's brother, John Jenkins. We were going through the
yard into the other road and heard a noise in the house. We could hear a
voice and we said to each other, "I lay that is old Frank." I know
Gimber well, so I know his voice - I could tell it from a hundred. We
went in the back door into the house and Christy and Gimber were talking
about buying a cart and harness for £1, and I saw Christy give Gimber
5s. as a deposit. After that they had a wrangle, and Christy said,
"Here, give me my 5s., and I will have nothing to do with it." "Gimber
gave him the 5s., and then Christy said, "Now, Gimber, I want another
5s. before you have your harness back." Gimber said, "Why, you silly
man, I have just given it to you to stand out and have nothing to do
with it." I saw the money pass and it was in small coins. Christy put it
in his trouser pocket when he received it from Gimber. They came to some
words, and Gimber said, "Now, Tom, since you have been so nasty, I am
going to have my harness," and he then went into the bar after the
harness, and Christy followed him. What was done in the bar I don't know
as I stopped in the tap-room, but when they came out of the bar I saw
Christy's nose was bleeding. They then sat down together, and were
drinking. After about five minutes, Gimber walked into the yard and came
back again. I then went into the yard for some water. Directly Gimber
got into the tap-room I heard something fall, and on looking in at the
door I saw Gimber lying on the ground, and I thought he was dead. How he
got there I don't know. There was a lodger in the room and a woman. I
don't know who they were, but I saw the man this morning. I don't know
there names. The woman, I believe, was having her dinner. Mrs. Christy
and her daughter were there also. Deceased was sitting on a form and his
wife was wiping his nose. Whilst I was looking in at the door I heard
Christy say, "You old _____, I have done for you now." I am sure it was
not, You have done for me, you old ____." I am perfectly sure of the
words, and he said them whilst his wife was wiping his nose with a wet
rag. She was standing in front of him, and she had the rug, which was
very small, before his mouth. I then went away. I saw a harness there,
and Gimber took it out and put it into the cart himself. I did not touch
the harness in the cart. I never touched it. I will swear I never put it
into the cart - Gimber did. My brother-in-law went into the yard and
called me, and I went out on that account. I had thought of the water
before he called me. Gimber did not call either me or my brother-in-law
into the yard. The front door was shut all the time. I believe both
Gimber and Christy were very drunk, and they were talking together in
the tap-room when I entered the house. Directly Gimber got into the room
from putting the harness into the cart we heard the fall, and then went
back to see what it was. I will swear that I did not run away. The cart
was in the yard, but there was no harness in it. I never saw Christy on
the floor or that he was hit. I did not see Mrs. Christy pull Gimber off
her husband. When Christy followed Gimber into the bar where harness was
I heard a bit of a scuffling. I will swear I did not hear a fall in
there. I did not see anything take place in the passage nor the bar. I
can't say if anything did. The cart was three rods from the tap-room
door. The pump from which I got the water is just outside the door.
Supposing a row took place in the passage I might not have seen it.
Gimber married my wife's mother - if they are married at all. They live
together. The blood I saw might have come from Christy's mouth. I was in
the house altogether from 20 minutes to half-an-hour. neither I not
Jenkins had anything to drink. Christy followed Gimber into the bar
about five minutes after I got there. If anyone swears I put the harness
into the cart they are telling a falsehood. I never touched the harness
nor did the harness touch me. It was not given to me, and I had no hand
at all in putting it into the cart. I did not see it and that was all.
Mrs. Christy re-called: I will swear that I saw Mackins put the
harness in the cart. I will swear that Gimber did not leave the house
till it was all over. Morgan was not there, only his wife, who says she
was so agitated that she can't remember anything of what took place.
Mackins and the other man took the cart away with the harness before
Gimber left the house. I washed my husband's mouth with a little warm
water and a rag in the tap-room. Whilst I was doing that he only said,
"Oh, let me alone," or something like that. The blood was spat up from
his stomach. His nose did not bleed at all. Gimber threw the money on
the table, and I afterwards picked it up and put it in my pocket. My
husband knew perfectly well that I picked up the money. Gimber threw the
harness down in the passage and Mackins took it away in the cart. I saw
them pass my window with the cart, which was a very small one, and the
harness was in it. I spoke to them and said, "Well, you have got it
Morgan was then called in, and was at once identified by the witness
Mackins as the man who was present when the row took place. Mackins
declared most positively that Morgan was the man, and spoke to a
conversation he had with Christy as to the cart being suitable for him
to take fruit round in the summer, whereas Morgan most positively
declared he was not. In answer to the Coroner, Morgan said: I was not
there when the row took place. I did have conversation with Christy in
the morning before I left. I went out collecting forms. I don't know
whether anyone saw me or not. I was between here and Dover - between
Martin and Langdon. I will swear that I was not there when the row took
place. My wife was at home.
The Coroner and several of the Jurors expressed themselves much
surprised at the evidence of Mackins, and one or two searching inquiries
were put to him by the Coroner for the purpose of testing his
credibility. The witness, however, adhered most firmly to his
statements, and reiterated them without the slightest hesitation or
Elizabeth Christy deposed: I am the daughter of the deceased, and was
at home on Sunday, the first of May. The first I saw of the affair was
my father on the door in the passage and Gimber on him. Mrs. Morgan was
in the tap-room at the time, but her husband was gone out. I did not se
him go out, but I saw him come back between four and five. I am certain
he was not in the house. I don't think he had anything in his hand when
he came into the house. I have seen him with his forms in a basket. I
came downstairs when I heard a noise, and I was going to fetch his
dinner, which was at the bake-house. As soon as we got the men apart I
went for the dinner. When I went for the dinner Gimber had gone - he
went out of the backdoor. I saw Mackins and another boy take the cart
out of the yard. Gimber was outside going after them. Gimber came back
into the yard, but he was not with my father. I did not see them go into
the "Jolly Sailor." My father went to bed soon after I got back with the
dinner, which I should think was about half-past one o'clock. I went to
the bake-house twice to fetch the dinner, but it was not ready. The
dinner was given to me off the bake-house table. I am not quite sure
whether my father went to sleep downstairs. After we got the men apart I
am my mother tried to make peace, and we might have been so engaged for
half-an-hour. I heard my father shout "Murder" before I got downstairs
and my mother also screamed, and then I ran downstairs and saw my father
on the floor as I have stated.
By a Juror: Father went up to bed directly after we got Gimber from
Maria Morgan said: I was at the "Maxton Arms" on Sunday week when the
row took place. I can't say what the time was. My husband had gone to
collect ferns, and he did not return till between four and five. I will
swear he was not in the house at the time the row took place; if he had
been I do not think it would have taken place. I was in the kitchen or
tap-room. I saw Gimber come in, and he had a harness and cart with him.
He and Mr. Christy had some beer. I heard them bargaining about the cart
and harness for a sovereign. Mr. Christy said he did not like to buy
them on a Sunday, but he would advance him a crown and give him the rest
on Monday morning. Christy afterwards took the harness into the bar and
fetched the money and gave it to Gimber. They sat down a bit and had
some more beer, and Gimber then said, "I will have my harness back," and
I saw him throw the money on the table. It was picked up, but I don't
know by whom. I then saw Gimber go to the bar for the harness, and
Christy followed him, but what took place I don't know. I heard a
scuffling and I thought they were trying to get the harness away from
each other. I heard the mistress call out, and on looking I saw Mr.
Christy in the passage by the front door and Gimber on him. They
afterwards came back into the tap-room and sat down again. I saw Christy
knock Gimber down in the tap-room. Gimber afterwards took Christy away
somewhere. I saw Christy's daughter come down whilst her father was
lying in the passage, but I don't know what he did. I saw Mackins and
another young man come in with Gimber, and I believe, although I am not
quite sure, that they were in the little room.
By the Foreman: I went into the "Jolly Sailor," as I would not stop
while the row was going on.
Examination continued: I left Jenkins in the house. When the young
men went out they left Gimber in the tap-room. Both Christy and Gimber
were the worse for liquor. I was not intoxicated, I had only had three
half-pints of beer. Mrs. Christy was not the worse for liquor. My
husband brought home some ferns, but he did not bring them into the
kitchen. I did not see Gimber take hold of Christy by the throat in the
tap-room; if had done so I must have seen it. I did not see Mrs. Christy
wipe her husband's face; she might have done it whilst I was out.
Frederick Woodman deposed: I am a duly registered medical
practitioner at Deal. I first saw the deceased, Thomas Christy, between
two and three o'clock in the afternoon of Monday, the 9th of May. He was
lying ion the sofa in the bar. He told me he was suffering from
rheumatism and very great pain in the right knee and left elbow. He said
that left knee had been first affected, but that it was better. He told
me he had been ill several days and found the pain was getting worse in
the joints. I asked him how long he had been brought downstairs, and he
told me he had been brought down that morning. His daughter was in the
room and I asked her to go out, and I then examined deceased's
knee and thighs. I found the right knee very much swollen; the swelling
extending up the thighs. I did not notice any marks on the left thigh. I
think that I looked at it, and I felt the left knee through the clothes.
He complained of being very feverish, and his pulse was very quick and
his tongue much coated. He did not at any time complain of any pain in
the throat. He spoke well, and showed no indication to me that there was
anything the matter with his throat. I prescribed for him and said I
would look in again in a day or two. I saw him again on the 11th. He was
then much worse - suffering from difficulty of breathing. It was a
peculiar sort of breathing, indicating a narrowing of the wind-pipe. I
inferred it was inflammation, and examined the throat externally. I was
then told he could not swallow and I then gave him something to drink.
He kept it in his mouth for a long time and I found he could not swallow
a drop of it. He complained of a good deal of pain in the top part of
his throat generally. He only spoke in a whisper. I then examined the
interior of his mouth with a spoon, but could detect no inflammation. I
could not see into the windpipe, but only to the upper part of the
gullet. I understood that the pains in his knees and elbows were better.
I then noticed that the elbow was discoloured and the skin broken, which
he told me was caused by the rubbing in of an embrocation and the
effects of a mustard poultice, which had been supplied before I came. I
prescribed for him and saw him again in two hours. When I called again I
was told that in the interval between my first and second visit he had
had an attack and had nearly died, he being obliged to sit up in his bed
and fight for his breath. I then ordered leeches to be applied to the
upper part of the neck, and other remedies, and that gave him relief. I
told him I would call again the next day, and he said he did not think
he should be alive. I saw him again on Thursday morning, when he was
breathing better. He spoke in a more natural voice, and told me he was
greatly relieved soon after the leeches. I ordered four leeches and they
all took. He also said he had been able to take nourishment freely. I
sent my assistant in the evening to see how he was, and the report was
that he was going on favourably, and I did not see him myself again. At
no time did he tell me of any violence having taken place. I have since,
by the Coroner's directions, made a post mortem examination of
the body - a very careful and particular one, assisted by Dr. Hulke. We
found externally the discolouration of the left elbow, with the skin
abrased or broken as before stated, also on the inside of the right
thigh and the front of the left thigh discolouration like the marks of a
bruise or blow. There were several of such that I noticed. There was
also a bruise or discolouration on the scrotum below the bladder. Those
on the thighs might have been produced by a blow or by kneeling, but
more likely the latter. I should think, if there had been any kneeling
with violence, it would be that which produced the marks I saw. I did
not notice any external marks on either the chest or abdomen. I saw no
external marks on the throat. Internal inflammation might exist in the
throat, caused by external violence, without any outward marks being
visible. On examining the chest we found no fracture of any ribs. We
then examined the lungs. In the right side of the lung was intensely
congested - especially the upper part, which was in the first stages of
inflammation and sank when placed in water. There was very little fluid
in the plenra, but a slight adhesion, which showed the marks of a former
disease. The left lung was also very much congested, but not so much as
the right. There was no inflammation and no part would sink. It was
almost entirely adherent from former disease, but there were no marks of
recent inflammation. The heart was quiet healthy. We found no injury to
the walls of the chest. We then removed the windpipe and gullet, and
some of the deep muscle around hem were congested. We laid open the
gullet and found it healthy wave at the upper part, which was congested.
We then opened the windpipe and larynx and found them highly inflamed.
The mucous membrae was swollen, red, and injected with blood, and
covered with nuco puriear matter. The inflammation was most marked in
the windpipe just below the larynx. We then opened the abdomen and found
everything there in a healthy state, and no poison in the stomach, not
any rupture of any of the intestines. There was nothing the matter with
either the kidneys or the liver. We did not take out or open the
bladder, as on examining it externally we saw nothing the mater with it.
We then opened the head and found slight congestion externally on the
brain, but on opening it found nothing out of the usual order or
unhealthy. We then examined the limbs, as on opening the left knee we
found nothing. In the right knee we found the joint very much swollen
and it contained two or three ounces of clear fluid. On cutting into the
muscle of the interior part of the right thigh we found them of a dark
purple from extensive bruises and extraversion of blood. This extended
some distance up the thigh. We examined the arm, but there was nothing
there. I attribute the death of deceased to the inflammation of the
windpipe, and that no doubt caused the congestion of the lungs, which
would no doubt cause inflammation there. I think it probably that the
inflammation of the throat was caused from some bruise. The deep muscle
of the throat that I found congested indicate also that there probably
had been some external injury. I think a violent blow might result in
the inflammation I saw in the joints of deceased, especially as the
deceased's blood was in an inflammatory state, and such inflammation
might be two or three days before it showed itself. The inflammation no
doubt was caused by some violence.
A Juror: Would not the effect of walking about produce inflammation
in these particular joints?
Dr. Woodman: Yes, it would increase the liability or tendency to
The Juror: Did you ever in your experience as a medical practitioner
see a parallel case to this?
Dr. Woodman replied that he had not.
The Juror: You said just now that you were kept in perfect ignorance
that the man had suffered violence, but supposing the person who aught
to have given you that information had done so, would the deceased have
been in the same position that he is now?
The Coroner said he was not sure that the question was one that could
be put to a witness, as it was of course quite impossible for him to say
what might have happened.
In answer to another question, Dr. Woodman said deceased told him he
was not to ask the wife any questions, but the daughter.
This concluded the evidence, and the Coroner then addressed a few
observations to the jury, telling them that they had nothing whatever to
do with the deceased's mode of life or condition, but simply as to what
the cause of death, and how it took place. the circumstances of
deceased's death were stated with much force and clearness by Dr.
Woodman to be inflammation of the throat which caused great difficulty
of breathing, so much so in fact as to entirely stop breathing. That.
according to the medical evidence, was the cause of death, and it was
for the jury to say whether the injury of the throat had been caused in
a natural way, unconnected in any way with violence, or whether it was,
either directly or indirectly, the result of violence inflicted upon the
deceased. The Coroner then commented upon the whole of the evidence in a
very lucid manner, and, referring to the remark of one of the jurors who
said he was of opinion that deceased had died of neglect, said he had no
hesitation in charging the jury that even subsequent neglect should not
exonerate the person who inflicted the injury from the full consequences
of his acts.
The Jury then consulted together for a short time, and returned a
verdict of "Manslaughter against Frank Vincent Gimber." A warrant was at
once issued for the apprehension of Gimber, and the witnesses were all
bound over to appear at the next Maidstone Assizes.
The proceedings then terminated, having lasted seven hours.
From the Deal, Walmer, and Sandwich Mercury,
18 June, 1870. 1d.
BOROUGH PETTY SESSIONS
The only business at these sessions on Thursday, which were attended
by the Mayor, W. M. Cavell, and E. Brown Esqrs., in addition to the
hearing of a poor-rate summons, was an application by Mr. Morris
Langley, on behalf of Mr. Worthington, brewer, of Dover, for the license
of the "Maxton Arms" public-house to be endorsed till next transfer day
to a person named Macey. In answer to the Magistrates' Clerk, Mr.
Langley said the present tenant. Mrs. Christy, had absconded, leaving
three quarters' rent due; and, although an execution had been put in,
the amount realised had not been sufficient to clear the whole of the
arrears. The Clerk said that in a case of this nature the Deserted
Tenements Act required that there should be six months' rent due before
a landlord could resume possession, and as it transpired that the second
quarter was not up till the 22nd inst. the application was ordered to
stand over till next week.
From the Deal, Walmer, and Sandwich Mercury,
4 January, 1873.
A FALSE WITNESS
An old man 76 years of age, named Stephen Read, was charged upon the
information of Sergt. Hodgson wuth having on the 18th of December, at
the parish of Deal, unlawfully aided and assisted one, George Wilson, to
desert from the Marine service, contrary to the Marine Mutiny Act.
Upon being asked the usual questions as to whether he were guilty or
not, prisoner said he knew nothing about the matter. He did not know
that he ever saw the man Wilson.
Edmund Stone deposed: I am a private in the Royal Marines stationed
at Walmer. On the afternoon of the 18th of December I went out with a
man named George Wilson, who has deserted since. I went to the "Sir John
Falstaff" with him, and we had some beer. The prisoner was in the
tap-room. Wilson called the prisoner on one said, and we all three went
out - that is myself, the prisoner, and Wilson. Wilson said to prisoner,
who was a few yards behind, "Here is 30s., go and buy a suit of clothes
and bring them to the "Maxton Arms," and I will wait on you till you
come." With that I left the party - viz, Wilson and the prisoner. A
short time afterwards I went into a pawnbroker's to buy a scarf. There I
saw the prisoner inside the shop buying a suit of clothes. He came out
with it under his arm in a red handkerchief. I saw no more of him till
about half-an-hour afterwards, when I went again to the "Maxton Arms,"
and I then saw the prisoner outside the house. I saw him come out. I
went in the yard and in a certain place there I saw Wilson changing his
clothes. When I saw Wilson he was putting a pair of trousers on. The
striped regimental trousers were lying on the ground, and he was putting
another pair on. I said he aught to know better, and then he came out
and ran away. He had on a pair of regimental boots and another pair of
trousers, but he had no coat on. I could tell he was wearing regimental
boots, because I saw the seam at the back. It was not quite dark. I saw
no more of him - he has deserted. When I heard him tell the old man to
take the 30s. for the clothes, I did not know what he meant. I heard
Wilson tell prisoner, as a reason for wanting the clothes, he was going
to send them to his brother for a Christmas box. The old man might have
thought he did want them for that purpose. I thought so too. I have been
punished for being in Wilson's company. I told this to my Colonel after
I was made a prisoner on the 19th about 12 o'clock. I had not said
anything to anyone about it till then. Wilson was reported absent on the
night he deserted. Wilson was not absent without leave.
Prisoner: The witness gave me the money to get the clothes just after
we passed the General Post-office. He gave me three half-sovereigns.
Witness denied that he gave prisoner the money, and said, "as far as
he could see," the money given to prisoner consisted of a sovereign and
a half-sovereign, whereas he had before stated that Wilson gave the
money to the prisoner when he (Stone) was walking in front of them.
The prisoner asserted most positively that the witness himself gave
him the money, and after some close questioning by Mr. Mercer, Stone
stated that he did hand the money to the prisoner, but said it was first
given to him by the man Wilson.
The Magistrates remarked that after this the witness's statement as
against the prisoner was worthless.
W. Clark, assistant to Mr. Wellden, said he remembered selling a suit
of clothes to the prisoner but he was not quite certain as to the date,
although he believed it to be about the 18th of last month. He was not
certain what coin he received, but he believed it was a sovereign and a
half-sovereign - it might have been three half-sovereigns. prisoner
tried the coat on and also a hat that he bought. He did not say what he
wanted them for. The prisoner was alone.
Supt. Parker said Mr. W. Chandler was present in Court, and could throw
some light on the matter.
Mr. Chandler was accordingly sworn. He said: I was engaged with two
of our men erecting a building in the yard of the "Maxton Arms," and saw
the witness Stone come about three or four feet into the yard from the
tap-room. He looked round the yard and then turned and went back into
the tap-room. He then came out again with a Marine, who had a bundle
under his arm and was also carrying a paper bag, which by the shape of
it I guess contained a round-about hat. The men went round towards the
closet, but Stone came back as far as the tap-room door and then walked
back to the closet and spoke to the man inside. I could not hear what he
said. Before Stone had time to turn and come away, the landlady ran out
of the tap-room and asked Stone what he was doing and what he had got
there. She went back and said she would send for the police, and another
Marine started off directly. Then the landlord ran out, and I heard him
say to the man who was in the closet, "What are you doing here?" The man
replied that it was all right, but the landlord said he did not know
that it was all right. I did not see the old man there at all. I
afterwards saw Stone and the other Marine go away together, the both of
them had their jackets on.
[It will be remembered that on Thursday week, when the landlord of
the "Maxton Arms" was charged with assisting the man Wilson to desert,
Stone stated that he discovered the man in the closet changing his
dress, and that the landlord was standing outside.]
John Barker, corporal of the Marine police, said: From information
received, I went to the Sir John Falstaff about five o'clock and I saw
the prisoner in the tap-room. I asked him if he had carried a bundle to
the "Maxton Arms. He said "No." I asked him a second time, and he denied
all knowledge of it. I went away for about half-an-hour and came back
again. I saw the prisoner and he again denied taking the bundle.
Afterwards he told me that he did carry a bundle; that he met two men in
Water Street, and they told him they would give him 2s. to carry the
bundle to the "Maxton Arms." he took it there and sat it down in the
tap-room, and one of the Marines gave him 2s., and he then came away.
Afterwards I asked him where he bought the clothes, and he said he had
not bought them at all. I was in uniform. I told him he would get into a
scrape, and he had better tell me the truth. This I told him on the
Prisoner admitted that all this witness had stated was true.
Mr. Sidders, the landlord of the "Sir John Falstaff" said the
prisoner was his uncle by marriage, and was staying with him, he having
taken him out of the Union for a little while. Having corroborated the
corporal's evidence, Mr. Sidders said that while the latter was gone to
the "Maxton Arms," he and his wife called the old gentlemen into the bar
and asked him if he had taken a bundle to the "Maxton Arms," and he then
admitted that he had. Mr. Sidders informed prisoner that he ought to
have told him of it before, because, being a pensioner, it was his, (Mr.
Sidders's) duty to put such things.
In defence, prisoner said the man Stone gave him the money, and he
bought the clothes and took them to the "Maxton Arms." He had not seen
either of the men since. The man Wilson said he was going to give his
clothes to his brother for a Christmas box. When he took the clothes to
the "Maxton Arms" the other man gave him 2s. and wanted him to have
something to drink, but he refused. After he got a short way from the
house he met the man Stone, and he asked him to go back and have
something to drink, but he declined.
The Magistrates deliberated in private for some time, and on the
re-admission of the public, the Mayor announced that the Act of
Parliament required certain things to be done in order for a person to
be guilty of assisting a man to desert, and the present charge had not
been proved to the satisfaction of the Magistrates. The act of buying
clothes was not in itself an offence unless coupled with other things;
and, therefore, under the circumstances, the case would be dismissed.
The Magistrates desired him to say with respect to the evidence of the
witness Stone, that they could not place any credence in it whatsoever.
He had undoubtedly perjured himself, and on a former occasion might have
got an innocent man into trouble.
From the Deal, Walmer, and Sandwich Mercury,
24 April, 1874. 1d.
DRUNK AND DISORDERLY
John Ashington, a boatman, was charged with being drunk and
disorderly in the "Maxton Arms," on the 15th inst.
P.S. Philpott deposed that on the day named he went into the "Maxton
Arms," not being on duty, and the defendant shook his fist in his face,
and threatened to cut his throat. He repeated this several times, and
was very drunk. He would not be quiet, and witness was forced to take
him into custody.
A previous conviction was proved against the defendant and he was
fined 20s. including costs.
From the Dover Express and East Kent News, Friday 25 January, 1907. Price 1d.
SUICIDE OF A DOVER LADY AT DEAL
On Friday, Mrs. Marsh, of 18, College Road, Deal, a widow, aged 49
years, whose mother, Mrs. Hall lives at the Dover Almshouses and whose
sister is the wife of a well known Dover tradesman, committed suicide by
walking into the sea. Mrs. Marsh’s husband formally kept the “Maxton
Arms,” and had died very suddenly a short time ago, and for some time
she has been very queer in her head. She got up very early on Friday
morning, without the other occupants of the house being aware of it. The
lodger finding her missing, at once went in search of her, and between
seven and eight o’clock, she was found on the seashore, her body having
been washed up by the waves.
The inquest was held at Deal on Friday afternoon.
Dr. Roberts said that his partner, who was indisposed and unable to be
present, had attended the deceased on several occasions, the last a year
ago. On the previous evening witness received a message soon after 6,
asking him to call, but being single-handed he could not go till 8, when
a messenger called and asked for some medicine for the deceased to help
her to sleep. He sent an ordinary mixture, and said he would call in the
morning, which he did. Her appearance was consistent with death from
Hannah Hall, of Dover, said the deceased was her daughter, and was the
widow of George Marsh, formerly in the Army, and who took the “Maxton
Arms,” Deal. She was 43 years of age, and was in excellent spirits when
witness came over and saw her in August, through a year ago her symptoms
were just the same as they had been now described. After the birth of
her daughter, 12 years ago, when the husband was in the Army, she had a
serious illness which made her strange in the head, and she was ordered
home for her native air. From time to time since she had suffered from
Richard Saunders gave evidence as to finding the body at half beach at
7.20 that morning, opposite Sandown Terrace, the Marina. The water was
Redman Richard Mumbray said he lived at 18, College Road, where the
deceased also resided. She had suffered from sleeplessness and been very
unwell for a fortnight. The illness effected her head very much, and she
was depressed, and said she was frightened at times she might do
something to herself. At a quarter to three that morning she got up, put
on her skirt and top, and went downstairs to go to the back. She had
been down before and returned, and he thought she would return again,
but she did not, and in about ten minutes he went out, but could not
find her, and seeing a Constable, he gave information. He had been awake
nearly all the night with her. He had been on excellent terms with her.
When well she was very cheerful. She went to bed at nine, taking her
medicine, but could not sleep, and she went down and took another dose.
The Coroner remarked that the fact that it was such a frosty night and
that she was only partially dressed, pointed to determination, and
indicated a distorted mind, and that she did not appreciate what she was
A verdict of suicide during temporary insanity was returned.
BROWN Rattery 1855+
SPICER William 1859+
PAYNE C 1862+
STICKELLS T 1863-64+
SIMPSON David May/1868-69
CAWTHORN George June/1869+
CHRISTY Thomas to 1870 dec'd
PARKER William 1870
BASS John 1871
LINES James 1873
DAVIS James 1874
1876 pub closed for several months
GUNNER Henry 1878-82+
BAX William Jan/1887
DIXON William Nov/1887
YOUNG John Jan/1890
JACKSON Thomas July/1890+
FAGG Charles 1892
SPINNER Walter 1893
PILCHER Alfred Mar/1894
WALSH Maria 1895
HART Frank Jan/1896
NAYLOR George Sept/1896
MARSH George 1898-May/1900 dec'd
MARSH Agnes May/1900-July/1900
FOX John Caleb July/1900+
WARD ALFRED Feb/1901
MANTLE Benjamin John Nov 1901+
LATTER Thomas 1904-06
the Kelly's Directory 187
From the Post Office Directory 1882
From the Kelly's Directory 1899
Deal Licensing Register
From the Deal Walmer & Sandwich Mercury