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Page Updated:- Saturday, 31 July, 2021.

PUB LIST PUBLIC HOUSES Paul Skelton

Earliest 1823

(Name from)

Hope

Latest 1908

73 Middle Street Post Office Directory 1874

149 Middle Street Kelly's 1899

Deal

Deal or Walmer pub

Above photo suggested as being circa 1870-80s.

Former Hope 2017

Above Google image, July 2017.

Former Hope

Above picture taken from Google Maps 2010.

 

Previously called the "Blacksmith's Arms" and changed name somewhere between 1821 and 1823.

A J Langridge's research in 1977 mentions the "Hope" but unfortunately no date and no further information.

Further research point this to 73 Middle Street. 149 Middle Street pre 1808 & 1899 Kelly's 1899

1903 Deal Licensing Register stated the premises as an alehouse and the pub closed around 1908 under Charrington's brewers who held onto the property although closed as a pub until 1956 when it was finally divided into two separate residential properties.

 

From the Kentish Gazette, 11 July 1843.

July 2, at Sandwich, Mr. John Smith, many years, landlord or the "Hope Inn," Deal, aged 56.

 

Kentish Gazette, 9 July 1844.

Valuable FREEHOLD PUBLIC HOUSES, at Sandwich, Word, Deal, Sutton, Northbourne, and Great Mongeham, in the County of Kent,

TO BE SOLD BY AUCTION, AT the "Three Horse Shoes," GREAT MONGEHAM, on THURSDAY, the 25th day of JULY, 1844, (unless previously disposed of by Private Contract, of which due notice will be given), subject to such conditions as will be then and there produced, in several Lots.

Also a FREEHOLD PUBLIC HOUSE, called the "Hope," situate in Middle Street, in the said parish of DEAL, with the outhouses and appurtenances thereto belonging, now in the occupation of Mr. James Cuthbert Roberts.

The above Property forms a most desirable investment, and (if not forthwith Sold by Private Contract), will be offered for sale in convenient Lots, as will be expressed in future advertisements.

For Particulars, and to treat for the Purchase by Private Contract, apply at the Offices of Mr. Mourilan, Solicitor, Sandwich.

 

Dover Express 16 February 1906.

DEAL PROPOSED REDUCTION OF LICENCES.

At the Deal Licensing Sessions on Thursday last week, the Mayor announced that, owing to the superfluity of licensed houses in Deal, the following licences would be recommended to the Quarter Sessions for extinction: The "Hope Inn," the "Maxton Arms," the "Deal Lugger," the "Deal Cutter," and the "Sun" and "Globe."

 

From the Canterbury Journal and Farmers' Gazette, Saturday 6 October, 1906.

On Tuesday the Committee settled the compensation to be paid to the owners and tenants of some of the houses, the licenses of which had been taken away. The following figures were agreed upon:-

"Hope Inn," Deal. 949.

To the owners (Messrs. Thompson and Son, Walmer) 880.

To the Tenant. (Harry Thomas). 5.

 

LICENSEE LIST

Last pub licensee had BUTTRESS Thomas 1823-24 Pigot's Directory 1823Pigot's Directory 1824 (alehouse) The Old Pubs of Deal and Walmer by Glover and Rogers

REDSOL/REDSULL Thomas 1823-28+ Pigot's Directory 1828-29

SMITH John 1832-2/July/43 dec'd age 56 Pigot's Directory 1832-34Pigot's Directory 1839Pigot's Directory 1840

ROBERTS James Cuthbert 1845-68+ (age 46 in 1861Census) The Old Pubs of Deal and Walmer by Glover and RogersBagshaw's Directory 1847

ROBERTS Eliza Shepherd 1868+ The Old Pubs of Deal and Walmer by Glover and Rogers

DURBAN William Cavell 1871-82+ (age 37 in 1871Census) Post Office Directory 1874Post Office Directory 1882 The Old Pubs of Deal and Walmer by Glover and Rogers

DURBAN Charles 1888+ The Old Pubs of Deal and Walmer by Glover and Rogers

SPICER Frederick Charles 1891-1903 (also carpenter and joiner age 25 in 1891Census) Kelly's 1899Kelly's 1903The Old Pubs of Deal and Walmer by Glover and Rogers

CHAPMAN William Robert to 1905 The Old Pubs of Deal and Walmer by Glover and Rogers

THOMAS Henry 1905-08 The Old Pubs of Deal and Walmer by Glover and Rogers

https://pubwiki.co.uk/HopeInn.shtml

http://www.closedpubs.co.uk/hope.html

 

Pigot's Directory 1823From the Pigot's Directory 1823

Pigot's Directory 1824From the Pigot's Directory 1824

Pigot's Directory 1828-29From the Pigot's Directory 1828-29

Pigot's Directory 1832-34From the Pigot's Directory 1832-33-34

Pigot's Directory 1839From the Pigot's Directory 1839

Pigot's Directory 1840From the Pigot's Directory 1840

Bagshaw's Directory 1847From Bagshaw Directory 1847

Post Office Directory 1874From the Post Office Directory 1874

Post Office Directory 1882From the Post Office Directory 1882

Kelly's 1899From the Kelly's Directory 1899

Kelly's 1903From the Kelly's Directory 1903

The Old Pubs of Deal and Walmer by Glover and RogersThe Old Pubs of Deal and Walmer by Glover and Rogers

 

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