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PUB LIST PUBLIC HOUSES Paul Skelton

Earliest 1804-

Deal Cutter

Latest 1909+

169 Beach Street (167 in 1828 and 1871 census Post Office Directory 1874)

Deal

Albion, Deal

The Deal Cutter is shown as the third property on the left. Extreme right is the "Royal Exchange" and extreme left the "Albion."

Beach Street 2010

Above photo kindly supplied by Patricia Streater January 2010. The "Albion" is recognisable at the corner of Silver Street and is No.167. On its right is a white painted house with grey door and this is No.169 which has been incorrectly listed as the "Deal Cutter" in various directories. Next door on the right, the yellow walls with blue door is the one that has the name "Deal Cutter" but no number on this door or anywhere on this property. Then on its right is No. 173.

 

This pub has also been referred to as simply the "Cutter" and the "Cutter Tavern." Kelly's directory of 1878 list it at 167 Beach Street.

Close by, and also named after a class of vessel is the "Deal Lugger", also in Beach Street at number 183. There was a renumbering of the Street between 1890 and 1893, and that has caused quite a bit of confusion.

Lastly, today a door incorrectly identifies house number 171 as being the "Deal Cutter" but there is no evidence that this part of the building was ever used as the public house.

The census of 1901 also mentions the Deal Cutter at 10 Beach Street and Walter Langley/Landen age 25, publican, although I believe this could refer to the "Deal Cutter" in Dover. However, in that year there appears to have been a Walter Taylor as licensee in the Dover pub.

 

Incorrect naming of 171

 

Kentish Weekly Post or Canterbury Journal 02 June 1809.

DIED.

May 30. Mrs. Curling, wife of Mr. Curling, of the "Deal Cutter" public-house, Deal.

 

From the Kentish Gazette, 25 August 1840.

DEATH.

August 16, at Deal, Mrs. Finnis, landlady of the "Deal Cutter," aged 33, having four orphan children unprovided for.

 

From an email received 16 July 2014.

Hi Paul,

Family history research I and others have done suggests that a man called George Hubbard (my g-g-g-grandfather) was the licensee for a time up to 1812, before being arrested and convicted in 1813 for helping an attempted escape by a high-ranking French general who'd been taken prisoner by the British in Spain.

Hubbard was transported for life to Port Jackson (Sydney), where he became a member of two expeditions by explorer John Oxley to explore the hinterland of New South Wales. Soon after that he received a pardon and went to Van Diemen's Land (Tasmania), where he became the government boat-builder in the north of the island and at one stage ran a pub called the Deal Cutter in Launceston.

Regards,

Bruce Walkley

Sydney, Australia.

 

Sale of the manor of Chamberlain's Fee (KAO U.924 P 9/4) 1828

INNS in the sale catalogue

All that messuage or tenement No.167 in Beach Street, called or known by the name of the "Deal Cutter" and the outhouses, buildings, yard, ground and premises thereunto belonging and now in the occupation of Richard Ladd Canney. These premises are subject to a lease granted to Edward Iggulden Esq. for 21 years from Michaelmas 1817 at the yearly rent of 2.1s.0d. and to a Covenant  therein contained for renewal thereof for a like term of 21 years at the end of 18 of the existing term, upon payment of a fine of 20.8s.0d. (Note, sold to Mr. Iggulden.)

 

Dover Express 16 February 1906.

DEAL PROPOSED REDUCTION OF LICENCES.

At the Deal Licensing Sessions on Thursday last week, the Mayor announced that, owing to the superfluity of licensed houses in Deal, the following licences would be recommended to the Quarter Sessions for extinction: The "Hope Inn," the "Maxton Arms," the "Deal Lugger," the "Deal Cutter," and the "Sun" and "Globe."

 

From the Canterbury Journal and Farmers' Gazette, Saturday 6 October, 1906.

On Tuesday the Committee settled the compensation to be paid to the owners and tenants of some of the houses, the licenses of which had been taken away. The following figures were agreed upon:-

"Deal Cutter," Deal. 173.

To the owners (Messrs. Thompson and Son, Walmer) 173.

 

 

HILLS and SONS (Owner) 1872 Deal Licensing Register

THOMPSON and SONS (Owner) 1903 Deal Licensing Register

 

LICENSEE LIST

MARSH William 1804+

CURLING Mr 1809+

HUBBARD George to 1812 (See email)

CANNEY Richard Ladd 1821+ The Old Pubs of Deal and Walmer by Glover and Rogers

CURLING George 1823-24+ Pigot's Directory 1823Pigot's Directory 1824

CANNEY/CAUTEY Richard Ladd 1828-39+ Deal Licensing RegisterPigot's Directory 1828-29Pigot's Directory 1832-34Pigot's Directory 1839 alehouse

FINNIS Mary Mrs to Aug/1840 dec'd

FINNIS Phillip J Bagshaw's Directory 1847 beerhouse

FINNIS Mary Brice 1861+ (age 63 in 1861Census) Pigot's Directory 1839Pigot's Directory 1840Bagshaw's Directory 1847Deal Licensing Register

PARKER Thomas 1871-Nov/76 (71 census) Post Office Directory 1874The Old Pubs of Deal and Walmer by Glover and Rogers

MILES John Nov/1876-78+ Kelly's 1878The Old Pubs of Deal and Walmer by Glover and Rogers (Cutter Tavern)

LANGLEY Charles 1881-82+ (age 32 in 1881Census) (Post Office Directory 1882 Cutter Tavern)

FINNIS Thomas Hornsby 1892-09+ Kelly's 1899Kelly's 1903 (Cutter P.H. 169 Beach Street)Pikes 1908(Bathing machine proprietor Kelly 1905)

https://pubwiki.co.uk/CutterTavern.shtml

 

Pigot's Directory 1823From the Pigot's Directory 1823

Pigot's Directory 1824From the Pigot's Directory 1824

Pigot's Directory 1828-29From the Pigot's Directory 1828-29

Pigot's Directory 1832-34From the Pigot's Directory 1832-33-34

Pigot's Directory 1839From the Pigot's Directory 1839

Pigot's Directory 1840From the Pigot's Directory 1840

Bagshaw's Directory 1847From Bagshaw Directory 1847

Post Office Directory 1874From the Post Office Directory 1874

Kelly's 1878From the Kelly's Directory 1878

Post Office Directory 1882From the Post Office Directory 1882

Kelly's 1899From the Kelly's Directory 1899

Kelly's 1903From the Kelly's Directory 1903

Pikes 1908From Pikes 1908

Deal Licensing RegisterDeal Licensing Register

The Old Pubs of Deal and Walmer by Glover and RogersThe Old Pubs of Deal and Walmer by Glover and Rogers

 

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