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PUB LIST PUBLIC HOUSES Barry Smith and Paul Skelton

Earliest 1829

Admiral Harvey

Closed 21 Jan 2018

13 Bridge Street (36 in 1861Census)

15 Bridge Street in 1901 Post Office Directory 1903

Admiral Harvey 2007
Admiral Harvey sign 2007Admiral Harvey sign 1991

Photo left by Paul Skelton 6 Oct 2007. Right August 1991, with thanks from Brian Curtis www.innsignsociety.com

The Admiral Harvey circa 1987

The Admiral Harvey 1987 (Photo by Paul Skelton)

Admiral Harvey circa 1980

Above Admiral Harvey circa 1980, below late 80's.

Photos by Barry Smith.

Admiral Harvey late 80's
Admiral Harvey circa 1940 Admiral Harvey circa 1940

Above photos showing the Admiral Harvey circa 1940.

 

The pub is named after Sir Eliab Harvey (1758-1830) a descendant of the anatomist, William Harvey, who discovered the circulation of blood. Sir Eliab commanded the Fighting Temeraire at Trafalgar and was made admiral in that year, 1805.

The bridge which gave the street its name, was built in 1829. The houses on the North side appeared about that time. According to the book  book "Old Kent Inns" by Donald Stuart, 2006, he says the pub opened in 1829, which was the same time as the bridge. The earliest mention I have found so far is 1844 when the landlord was Henry Clements, who was called as a witness to a murder of a policeman near the "Three Colts" in the same year; at the time the premises was referred to as a beer-house. This was well established by 1855, very much a country pub, and kept by Mr. Care who supplemented his bar takings by the sale of dairy produce, largely gleaned from his own surrounding pasture land and who gained a license in 1857. The annual fair used to be held on part of those pastures and as it eventually attracted the undesirable element of society, the magistrates were quick to point out that the practice was putting his licence in jeopardy. Later, as the lands passed to the Eagle estate, the keeper of that house received like warning.

 

From the Dover Express and East Kent News, Friday, 11 September, 1868.

INQUEST BY THE BOROUGH CORONER.

On Friday afternoon last the borough coroner, W. H. Payn, Esq., held an inquest at the "Admiral Harvey," Bridge Street, Charlton, on the body of Charles Hogwood, whose sudden death on the morning of the previous day, was engaged in unloading seed on the Commercial Quay for the Dover Oil Mills, we briefly reported in out last.

From the evidence of the witness, it seemed that the deceased was in tolerably good health, and was very sober in his habits. On the morning named, according to the evidence of Charles Bishop, a labourer working with the deceased on Thursday, Hogwood, while pushing a sack into the cart, fell back onto the tail board, and by the time he was laid on the ground he had struggled twice and died.

Dr Allan Duke deposed that he examined the deceased shortly after death. There were no marks of violence on him, and he (the witness) believed Hogwood died from disease of the heart.

The jury returned a verdict to that effect.

 

From the Dover Express and East Kent News, Friday, 28 August, 1874. Price 1d.

CORONERS INQUEST

An inquest was held on Monday last, at twelve o'clock, at the “Admiral Harvey Inn,” Charlton, on the body of the infant child of Richard Gatehouse, which was found dead in bedroom the Sunday morning previous. The Jury having been sworn, and Mr. Charles Hadlow chosen foreman, the following evidence was adduced:-

Richard Gatehouse: I am a costermonger, living in Colebran Street, Charlton. The deceased Richard Gatehouse, was my first child, and he was five months and three weeks old. I am a militia-man; and about a month ago while on duty at Canterbury the child was taken ill. I took it to the army doctor, who gave me some medicine, which appeared to do it good, and it continued well after that time. On Saturday last the child was put to bed and placed outside me and my wife. We both went to bed at twelve o'clock at night. At half-past five on Sunday morning, I awoke and went out into the back yard, and on my return on looking at the child I found it was dead. I do not know the cause of its death; there was plenty of room for three in the bed. The child was placed next to its mother. I do not think the mother laid on the child. The child had a “breaking out” before it died, and the same marks appear now as seen by the Jury. I had some medicine from the chemists some time since, but it has never had any sleeping draughts. My wife and me were both sober when we went to bed. I last saw my child alive at twelve o'clock when I went to bed. I awoke first in the morning, and afterwards called my wife.

Arthur Long, surgeon, at Buckland: On Sunday morning last, at eight o'clock, I was called in to see the deceased Richard Gatehouse. I found the child lying on the bed quite dead, and had been so for three or four hours. There were no marks of violence on the body, and it appeared to have been fairly nourished. The probably cause of death I believe to be from suffocation. The bedstead was too narrow for three. I think it probably that the child must have rolled against the mother, and thus become suffocated. The eruption on the mouth and ear was before death, but the discolouration down the left side came after death.

The Jury after a short consultation returned the following verdict: “That deceased infant Richard Gatehouse was accidentally suffocated while in bed with the father and mother.”

 

 

This lease expired in 1903 and plans to rebuild, at a provisional cost of £1,000 were approved in January that year. Bridge Street was widened in 1903, at a cost of £500, which would have altered the numbers. They were renumbered again, more intelligently it was said, in 1915. I point that out because at different times the address will read otherwise. We mustn't quarrel. Obviously progressed with some alacrity also because the new pub opened whilst the old was still being pulled down. History tells us that a bomb fell into this pub yard on 22 August 1917.

 

Dover Express 4th June 1909.

DOVER POLICE COURT – Tuesday. STEALING A BARROW.

Thomas Minter was charged with stealing from a yard in Peter Street a coster’s barrow value 12/6d the property of Mr. Coles of the Admiral Harvey public house, Bridge Street.

Mr. Coles said: I had a coster’s barrow which I bought on 1st May last year. It was kept in Tucker’s yard which has an entrance from Peter Street. He lent the barrow to Mr. Albert Dean in order that he might go round with vegetables and afterwards wood. I have not seen the barrow for some time, and the last time was when the boy was wheeling it in the street. From what I heard I sent a message to the defendant to come and see me about the barrow. He did not come and I then came down and saw the Chief Constable and the Magistrates’ Clerk. The prisoner was arrested and I saw the tray of the barrow yesterday and the wheels this morning. It has all been taken to pieces. When I last saw it the barrow was a going concern.

Cross examined: The prisoner did not come and ask the price of the barrow. He came to the house and wanted some beer on trust. He never lent the barrow to the prisoner. He understood that it had been a planned job for a fortnight that they were going to take the barrow.

William Wall, landlord of the "New Endeavour," London Road, said: About last Wednesday or Thursday, the prisoner came to me and asked me if I wanted a pair of wheels and springs. He said that he would bring them up and show them to me. He did so and I gave him 5/- for them. He said he had been making a new top for them. The defendant is a labourer who does nearly everything. I kept the wheels and springs until the police came and fetched them away this morning.

Det. Sgt. Mount said: yesterday afternoon I went to 12 George Street where the prisoner resides. I saw him and asked him if he had sold a set of springs and a pair of wheels to a man named Wilson. At first he replied “ I haven’t sold any wheels”, then he said “I did sell the wheels and have some money to draw off Wilson, but I bought the barrow. I asked him to allow me to look up the back of his garden. He did so and I found the tray of the barrow lying flat on the top of the lodge. Inside the lodge were the legs and side pieces of the barrow, and their supports, all in pieces as they are now. The wheels and springs were missing. I called in Dean, the man who the barrow was lent to. On returning with Dean, I found the prisoner putting his coat on. He said “You would not have had me had I known it”. Dean identified the portions of the barrow. I told the prisoner I should take him into custody for stealing a coster’s barrow from a yard in Peter Street the previous week. He replied “I don’t care. Quite right”. I took him to the police station. Mr. Coles was sent for and came and charged him. On being charged, he said, in reference to the wheels and springs. “All right, you’ve got to find them”. Subsequently I got the wheels from Mr. Wall. The prisoner further said that he bought the barrow for 8/-. He denied this. I got the wheels this morning from Mr. Wall’s premises in Lorne Road.

Albert Dean, 16 Colebran Street, said that Mr. Coles bought the barrow for his use. He did not authorise the defendant to take it. It was missing from the yard one day last week. His son had used it on Saturday the week before last.

The prisoner pleaded guilty and said that it would not have happened if he had not had some beer. He was sorry.

The Bench said that the man had been up there several times, his first offence being in 1895. He would go to prison for 21 days hard labour.

 

Below taken from http://www.doverwarmemorialproject.org.uk

Lucy Wall was a servant girl at the "Admiral Harvey" public house. She was killed on 22 August 1917 during the last of the daylight Gotha air raids when some seven or eight of the craft in formation flew over the town. Most of their bombs fell into the harbour but three or four bombs were dropped on Dover by one plane that flew directly over the town. The largest bomb, it is said, fell at the back of the "Admiral Harvey" where it did a great deal of damage. The only occupant at the time was Lucy and she was found at the back of the house very badly injured. She died on the way to hospital.

At the inquest her father Stephen William Wall, widower, of 27 Union Road, formerly of 21 Prospect Place and formerly an agricultural worker at Guston where Lucy had been born, said he had identified the body. Mrs Jane Sutton, who was a widow living at 20 Paul's Place, said "I was standing on a table in the back bedroom looking at the German aeroplanes. I saw the deceased standing at the back door and she shouted "Are they Germans?" and I replied "Oh yes!" She came outside the door a little bit further to watch them. I said "You had better go further back inside" as the guns were getting louder and louder. At that moment something came down and blew me off the table on to the bed and I lost myself for ten minutes. When I woke up I was covered with glass. The flame was something dreadful. The bomb burst ten yards away from me. I was only bruised and scratched a bit. Afterwards I saw them taking the poor girl away on a stretcher."

Mr E W Ewell was a special constable and a chemist, and he said, "When the firing commenced I was in High Street and after the bomb dropped I saw the smoke and ran in its direction. I could not see where the bomb dropped and enquired at several houses and then had to take refuge owing to the shrapnel dropping. I was afterwards told that the girl was in this public house alone. I climbed over the wall and searched the house and found the body lying partly in and partly out of the back door. She was not dead but unconscious. She however died before we put her on the stretcher. I sent her on to the Hospital then. There was a bad wound under the left breast and other smaller ones. She was 30 feet away from where the bomb burst and all around her on the wall were marks where fragments had hit. At the Hospital Dr Clarke said that she was dead."

Mr Rogers, the landlord, said that the girl was by herself in the house, his wife having gone to London. The only living thing in the house was a dog that had a piece of bomb in its paw and he took that out the previous night.

Lucy was buried at Guston churchyard with the cortege leaving from the Duke of York's School lodge house which was the home of her sister.

Post Script: A pear tree at the rear of the "Admiral Harvey" was blasted by the bomb; its leaves withered and the pears fell off. But by October it was budding again and even in bloom. An observer remarked, "the tree didn't mean to be beaten by the Hun!"

Note: Mr and Mrs Rogers were later to lose their only son Charles in World War II and three months later Mr Rogers was also killed. The following licensees Mr and Mrs Harper also lost their only son, Cyril.

 

 

The pub was given permission to close in September 1940 for the duration of the war. However, with further scars occurring during world war two, it wasn't until in June 1949 when approval was given, for repairs to be implemented at a cost of £217.

 

From the Dover Express, 13 September, 1940.

MORE PUBLIC HOUSES CLOSING

At the Dover Licensing Sessions on Friday last, the licensees of the following public houses were granted permission to close for the duration of the war:- "Carriers Arms," West Street; the "Royal Standard," London Road; and the "Granville Bars," Marine Parade. On Monday similar permission was given in respect of the "Admiral Harvey," Bridge Street.

 

Pat & Barbra Edwards mid 1980s.

Above photo by Gareth Moore mid 1980s, showing Pat and Barbra Edwards.

From the Rosemary Wells collection.

Celebration 1972

Above photo showing Stan Noseda in 1992 celebration.

From the Rosemary Wells collection.

Teresa Club 1972

Above photo showing Teresa Club in 1992.

From the Rosemary Wells collection.

1992-93 celebrations

New Year 1992-93 celebrations.

From the Rosemary Wells collection.

1992-93 celebrations

New Year 1992-93 celebrations. Showing landlady Barbara Edwards serving Barry May in blue shirt.

From the Rosemary Wells collection.

Ted Cole

Above photo showing Ted Cole in corner and one other, is that Tony the butcher? circa 1993.

From the Rosemary Wells collection.

Jimmy Clark 1992-93

Jimmy Clark 1992-93 New Year.

From the Rosemary Wells collection.

Pat Edwards 1993

Landlord Pat Edwards is on the right. 1993.

From the Rosemary Wells collection.

Inside pub 1992-93

Inside pub 1992-93.

Admiral Harvey fancy dress 1993

Above photo, 1993, showing Barry May and Rosemary Wells.

From the Rosemary Wells collection.

Locals 1993

Above photo 1 of locals 1993.

From the Rosemary Wells collection.

Locals 1993

Above photo 2 of locals 1993.

From the Rosemary Wells collection.

Locals 1993

Above photo 3 of locals 1993.

From the Rosemary Wells collection.

Locals 1993

Above photo 4 of locals 1993.

From the Rosemary Wells collection.

Locals 1993

Above photo 5 of locals 1993.

From the Rosemary Wells collection.

Locals 1993

Above photo 6 of locals 1993.

From the Rosemary Wells collection.

Locals 1993

Above photo 7 of locals 1993.

From the Rosemary Wells collection.

Locals 1993

Above photo of locals 8 1993. Landlord Pat Edwards is ion the right.

From the Rosemary Wells collection.

Locals 1993

Above photo 9 of locals 1993.

 

Fremlins in 1974, later a Whitbread house.

 

From the Folkestone Herald, 5 September, 2013. By Joe Kasper

TRIBUTE PAID TO WELCOMING HOSTS

Joan and Geoff Biggs

HAPPY COUPLE: Joan and Geoff Biggs.

Landlady's hearty cooking had many fans.

A FORMER landlady who was “loved by her regulars'" and famous for her steak and kidney pie has died at the age of 86.

Tributes have been paid to Joan Biggs, who ran pubs in Folkestone, Dover and Ashford with her husband Geoff.

Mrs Biggs started working as a barmaid in 1938, in her grandfather's Dover pub, the "Admiral Harvey." There she met her husband-to-be when he returned from duty in the Second World War, and the couple married in 1949 in Ashford. Mr Biggs died in 1983.

Retired

Mrs Biggs ran the "Red Cow Inn," on Foord Road, for more than 20 years until she retired in 1988, after which her daughter Vicky Musk took over.

Mrs Musk said: “Even after she retired she worked at the pub, helping out with the cooking.

“In those days there were several businesses nearby and she would be busy every lunchtime serving regulars from the local businesses.”

Mrs Biggs had previously been landlady of the "Admiral" and "Duchess of Kent" in Dover. The "Locomotive Inn" in Ashford and the "Foresters Arms," Folkestone.

“She did Sunday lunches every week and was quite famous for her steak and kidney pie,” said Mrs Musk.

“She was a very popular landlady and loved by all her regular customers.”

Both keen players, Geoff and Joan Biggs ran darts teams as well as a pub football team.

When she retired, Mrs Biggs moved to Bridge Street, Folkestone, and then to Hythe Nursing Home in 2007.

She died on August 29, leaving two children, four grandchildren and one great-grandchild.

Mrs Biggs' funeral will be held at Hawkinge Crematorium on Thursday, September 19, at 12.30pm.

 

I bring you the sad news that Pat Edward died in hospital on Sunday 21st January 2018, from what is believed to be septicaemia. he had been in hospital for about a week before his death.

The pub is currently closed and about to be boarded up. I have no further information regarding its future.

 

Admiral Harvey 2018

Above photo, February 2018, showing the pub being boarded up.

 

LICENSEE LIST

CLEMENTS Henry 1844+ Dover Express

CARE Thomas 1855-61+ (age 59 in 1861Census) Post Office Directory 1855Melville's 1858

CARE James 1881+ (age 54 in 1881Census) Post Office Directory 1874

CARE Mrs Naomi 1882 Post Office Directory 1882

WRIGHT William Henry 1885-Apr/1901 Next pub licensee had Post Office Directory 1891Kelly's Directory 1899

COLES William Henry 1901-10 end Post Office Directory 1903Post Office Directory 1903Pikes 1909 Next pub licensee had

BOWLAND George William 1910-Aug/11 dec'd Dover Express

BOWLAND E Mrs (widow) Aug/1911-Apr/12 Dover Express

Last pub licensee had ROGERS Frank Apr/1912-Oct/40 dec'd Kelly's 1913Post Office Directory 1913Post Office Directory 1918Post Office Directory 1922Pikes 1923Pikes 1924Pikes 1932-33Post Office Directory 1938Pikes 1938-39Dover Express

FULLAGER A E Oct/1940 (Brewer's manager) Dover Express

Last pub licensee had HARPER Alfred Harold 1941-Aug/45 Dover Express

BIGGS Frank E Aug/1945-49 end Dover ExpressPikes 48-49 (Of Barnet)

NICHOLAS John 1949-59 Kelly's Directory 1950Kelly's Directory 1953Kelly's Directory 1956

BROWN A F 1959-62

TOWNLEY Edwin Kenneth 1964-8 dec'd

TOWNLEY Mrs Gladys L 1968-80 end Library archives 1974 Fremlins

EDWARDS Patrick D 1980-21/Jan/2018 dec'd

 

Post Office Directory 1855From the Post Office Directory 1855

Melville's 1858From Melville's Directory 1858

Post Office Directory 1874From the Post Office Directory 1874

Post Office Directory 1882From the Post Office Directory 1882

Post Office Directory 1891From the Post Office Directory 1891

Kelly's Directory 1899From the Kelly's Directory 1899

Post Office Directory 1903From the Post Office Directory 1901

Post Office Directory 1903From the Post Office Directory 1903

Pikes 1909From Pikes Dover Blue Book 1909

Kelly's 1913From the Kelly's Directory 1913

Post Office Directory 1913From the Post Office Directory 1913

Post Office Directory 1918From the Post Office Directory 1918

Post Office Directory 1922From the Post Office Directory 1922

Pikes 1923From Pikes Dover Blue Book 1923

Pikes 1924From Pikes Dover Blue Book 1924

Pikes 1932-33From Pikes Dover Blue Book 1932-33

Pikes 1938-39From Pikes Dover Blue Book 1938-39

Post Office Directory 1938From the Post Office Directory 1938

Pikes 48-49From Pikes Dover Blue Book 1948-49

Kelly's Directory 1950From the Kelly's Directory 1950

Kelly's Directory 1953From the Kelly's Directory 1953

Kelly's Directory 1956From the Kelly's Directory 1956

Library archives 1974Library archives 1974

Dover ExpressFrom the Dover Express

CensusCensus

 

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