34 Dover Street
Folkestone
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Maidstone Gazette 18 January 1848
Petty Sessions, Friday; Before Charles Golder Esq., Mayor and Wm.
Major Esq.
George Norman was charged with having broken a pane of glass, the
property of George Keeler, beershop keeper. Ordered to pay 2s. 6d.
damage and 7s. 6d. costs, and in default of payment was committed to
Dover gaol for seven days.
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Folkestone Chronicle 22 November 1862.
Friday November 21st:- Before W. Bateman esq., Capt. Kennicott R.N.,
James Tolputt and A.M. Leith esqs.
John Rossiter, collector of rags and bones, lodging at the Oddfellows
Inn, Radnor Street, was brought before the bench, charged with stealing
from off a clothes line in Mummery's Yard, a white gabardine, the
property of Emily Tomsett, a laundress, residing in the yard. From
information received by the police the prisoner was found by police
constable Reynolds wearing the gabardine in Radnor Street. He was taken
into custody, and the gabardine being identified by the prosecutrix, the
prisoner was remanded till this day, to be brought up and tried under
the Criminal Justice Act.
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Folkestone Observer 4 January 1868.
Inquest At The Harvey Inn.
An inquest was held on Monday last before J. Minter Esq., coroner, on
the body of Elizabeth Collin.
Thomas Collin, living at Broadstairs and proprietor of the bathing
establishment there, identified the body of deceased as being that of
his sister, Elizabeth Collin. She was 57 years of age, and lodged with
Mrs. Finn, 12 Charlotte Terrace. He had been in monthly communication
with his sister, and had received a letter from her on Christmas Day.
Elizabeth Impett, wife of Frederick Impett, sailor, living at 14,
Charlotte Terrace, said that last Friday evening, between 8 and 9
o'clock, Mr. Harris, landlord of the Oddfellows, came to her door and
said that he had heard a crash as if somebody had fallen at No. 12.
Witness went to Mrs. Smith at No. 11 and got a key and opened the door,
and saw deceased lying at the bottom of the stairs, her head under her
right arm, which was resting on the wainscot. Witness called her
husband, and he picked her up. She was bleeding from her right ear, her
nose, and mouth. Washed her face with water and laid her in the room.
When Mrs. Finn came home shortly after, witness left. When witness went
into the house, no-one was there besides deceased.
Silvester Eastes, surgeon, said that on Friday evening last, between 9
and 10 o'clock, Mrs. Finn came to his house and told him that the person
who lodged with her had just fallen downstairs. Went immediately, and
found deceased lying on the floor of the front room downstairs. She was
quite insensible, and could not be aroused. There was copious bleeding
from the right ear, and she had all the symptoms usually produced by
fracture of the base of the skull. The case was hopeless. Saw her again
twice during the night, and two or three times the following morning.
She continued in precisely the same state, quite unconscious, neither
swallowing nor moving a voluntary muscle. She continued the same, and
died a little before three on Saturday afternoon, from fracture of the
skull, which no doubts was caused by the fall down stairs as described
by the last witness.
Elizabeth Finn, widow, living at No. 12, Charlotte Terrace, said
deceased lodged with her. On Friday evening she had been out for a walk
with deceased, paying some bills, and they returned home about half past
seven. Went out again a little before eight, at the request of deceased,
to get something for supper, and left her is the house alone, upstairs.
Returned about half past eight, and found deceased lying in the front
room, and Mr. and Mrs. Impett with her. When she went upstairs she found
the mat turned over, as if tripped against.
James Harris, landlord of the Oddfellows, Dover Street, said that at 8
o'clock on Friday evening he knocked twice at No. 12, Charlotte Terrace,
with the supper beer which he was in the habit of taking there. After
waiting two minutes he heard a heavy fall, as if a body was falling
downstairs. Went to No. 14, and told Mrs. Impett that he thought someone
had fallen. Mrs. Impett borrowed a latch key, and went in with her
husband. He followed them in, and when they had put the body in the
front room he left. Heard no cry with the fall.
The Coroner then summed up, and the jury returned a verdict of
Accidental Death.
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From the Folkestone Chronicle 4 January 1868.
FATAL ACCIDENT.
On Friday last, a maiden lady, named Elizabeth Collins, living with
Mrs. Finn at 12, Charlotte Terrace, while left in the house alone, fell
downstairs and never spoke afterwards, dying on Saturday afternoon. From
the evidence given at the inquest, which was held on Monday at the
"Harvey Inn" before John Minter Esq., borough coroner, it appears that
Mrs. Finn and deceased had been out in the evening, and when they
returned Mrs. Finn went out to get something for supper. While she was
gone, Mr. Harris, landlord of the "Oddfellows Arms" (sic) came with the
supper beer, and heard deceased fall downstairs, evidently in coming to
take the beer, for the mat at the top was kicked up, as though she had
tripped over it. Mr. Harris gave an alarm, and Mrs. Impett, living next
door but one, went into the house and found deceased lying doubled up at
the bottom of the stairs. Mr. Eastes, surgeon, attended her, but she
remained insensible till she died. A verdict of “Accidental Death” was
returned.
Note: Reporter confused the "Oddfellows Arms" with the
"Oddfellows Inn,"
where Harris was landlord.
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From the Folkestone Chronicle 10 April 1869.
Tuesday, April 6th: Before R.W. Boarer and J. Gambrill Esqs.
John Dale was charged with assaulting William Burvill in Dover Street
on the 27th ult.
Mr. Till, from the office of Mr. Minter, appeared for defendant.
William Burvill, stone mason, living in Queen Street, said: On the
evening of Saturday week, about twenty minutes past eleven, I was in
Dover Street, and prisoner insulted me outside the "Oddfellows Inn."
Defendant said “I've been waiting for you” and knocked me down into the
middle of the road. I had not Spoken to him before for some weeks. I was
sober. When I got up I said I would make him pay for it, and came to the
police station.
Cross-examined: I was in the "Oddfellows" about ten minutes. I was
not hurt very seriously.
Re-examined: There were altogether six or seven persons in the
street. I don't know exactly.
William Swaine said he was with complainant on the evening of
Saturday the 27th ult. when the assault took place. He saw defendant
knock Burvill down without any provocation.
Cross-examined: I did not come out with a man named Stone.
William Stone was at the "Oddfellows" on the night in question with
Burvill, defendant's brother, Swaine, and the landlord, Harris. On going
into the street he saw defendant and complainant tussling, and
complainant fell. He saw no blow struck.
Cross-examined: I did not say you made any disturbance in the house.
Francis Poole was going into Harris's on the night in question, and
seeing several persons coming out in a hurry, watched them, and saw
complainant fall, as though drunk. He saw no tussle or blow struck.
Cross-examined: I was the nearest person to you when you fell down.
The Bench considered the case proved, and fined prisoner 10s., and
13s. costs, or one month's hard labour.
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From the Folkestone Observer 10 April 1869.
Tuesday, April 6th: Before R.W. Boarer and J. Gambrill Esqs.
John Delo and William Delo were summoned for assaulting William Burvill
on the 27th ultimo.
The defendant John Delo did not appear.
William Burvill said: I am a mason, and live in Queen Street. On
Saturday week, about ten minutes to eleven, I went to the Oddfellows
Inn, Dover Street.
Stayed in the house about ten minutes, when I left and went into the
street, where I saw the defendant William Delo standing a few yards from
the house.
He said “I have been waiting for you”, or words to that effect, and hit
me on the right side of my head, knocking me down in the road. Had not
seen defendant previous to the assault for a few weeks. I was quite
sober. I said “I will make you pay for this” and walked to the police
station.
Mr. Till (clerk to Mr. Minter) then rose to cross-examine the witness.
Mr. Boarer: Are you an attorney, Sir?
Mr. Till: I am.
Mr. Boarer: Have you taken out your certificate?
Mr. Till: I have, sir.
Cross-examination: Was in the house about ten minutes. Did not have a
squabble with the defendant; had not quarrelled at all. I was insulted
in the bar of the public house by the defendant William Delo. A friend
of mine was in the house with me. Did not hurt myself when I fell down.
Did not hurt my limbs, but was able to get up and walk home.
By Mr. Bradley: There were several people in the street, but did not
know who they were, When I got up I walked away as I did not wish any
disturbance to take place.
William Swain said: I am a butcher, living in Dover Street. Burvill was
in my shop a little after eleven on the night of Saturday week when I
was asked by Burvill to have a glass of ale. We went down to the
"Oddfellows," where we had not been more than ten minutes when Burvill was
insulted by defendant. Burvill immediately left the house. I followed
him out and soon afterwards saw him knocked down by the defendant.
Burvill had not spoken to him previously. He hit him on the right side
of the head, and knocked him into the middle of the street. He got up
and I said “You had better come with me” and we went away.
Cross-examined: Did not see a man named Stone. Would swear he did not go
out with Stone, as I do not know him. There was only one blow struck.
The reason I did not protect my friend was that the blow came
unexpectedly. Several persons followed us out of the public house.
William Stone said: I was in the public house with Burvill on the night
of Saturday week. The defendants were there. Heard quarrelling going on
between William Delo and Burvill. Burvill left the house with me and
Swain.
Saw some tussling between Burvill and the defendant. Saw Burvill slip
down, after which he got up and walked away.
By the plaintiff: When you came into the bar you began laughing at the
defendant.
Francis Poole said: I was in Dover Street at a quarter past 11 on
Saturday night week. Saw a few persons coming out of the "Oddfellows"
public house. They came down opposite his house. Burvill fell down as if
he was “tight”. Did not see anyone hit him. When he got up he walked
away. Could not tell whether he was sober or not.
By the plaintiff: I was about four yards from you when you fell. I saw
you fall.
Did not see anybody strike you. I fancied you were “tight”. I could not
say positively.
By Mr. Gambrill: I did not see anybody close to Burvill when he fell.
The defendant was between me and Burvill.
The Bench fined the defendant 10s, with the costs, 18s., or in default
one month's imprisonment. The fine was paid.
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Folkestone Express 10 April 1869.
Tuesday, April 6th: Before J. Gambrill and R.W. Boarer Esqs.
John Delo was summoned for committing an assault on William Burvill on
the night of the 27th ult. Mr. F.J. Till, from Mr. Minter's office
appeared for the defendant.
The plaintiff, being sworn, said: I am a mason and live in Dover Street.
The assault complained of took place on Saturday week about twenty
minutes past eleven o'clock in the evening in Dover Street, when the
defendant assaulted me in the street. I went into the Oddfellows Arms
(sic) to have a glass of beer. I had been there about ten minutes when
the brother of the defendant came in and insulted me. I then went out
and a few yards away from the house I met the defendant. He said “I have
been waiting for you” and struck me on the right side of the head with
his fist and knocked me down in the road. I had not seen him previously
to speak to for some weeks. Some people then came along and said “That's
not fair, two or three on one”. I was sober. I said “I will make you pay
for this”, and walked to the police station, and from there home.
Cross-examined: I had been in the house about ten minutes. I was
insulted in front of the bar. I had a witness with me there. I do not
know how many more people there were in the street, as I walked off
directly it was over.
William Swain was then called. He said: I am a butcher, and live at 62,
Dover Street, and was with Mr. Burvill on the night in question. He came
into my shop about ten minutes before this happened and asked me to go
and have a glass of beer. I said I did not mind, and we went. The
defendant's brother then came in and insulted Mr. Burvill, when he
walked out of the door and I followed him out. We had only got a few
yards when Burvill was knocked down by the defendant. I heard him say “I
have been waiting for you”. Burvill had not spoken a word to him. He got
up, and he and I walked away. Defendant hit him once on the right side
of the head. I then said to plaintiff “You had better come away with
me”.
Cross-examined: I did not see a man there named Stone. I did not come
out of the house close behind him. There was only one blow struck; it
came quite unexpectedly. Burvill was not drunk. The blow left no mark. I
am certain I did not see William Stone. Some people followed me out, but
I did not see anyone in front. A sailor came up at the time; I do not
know who he was.
Mr. Till, on behalf of the defendant, said he was quite sure the Bench
would find this was a very paltry case and they ought never to have been
troubled with it. He had two witnesses to call who would prove this was
merely a squabble.
William Stone was then sworn. He said: I was at the public house on the
night in question, when I heard a quarrel between Burvill and William
Delo. Mr. Burvill then left the house; Swain left behind; I slipped out
before. I then saw John Delo and Burvill tussling together. I did not
see any blows. Burvill then slipped down; he got up, I put his hat on
and he walked away.
By the plaintiff: I did not see you come into the house. You were
laughing and chaffing the defendant's brother. I did not see the
beginning of this rumpus.
Francis Poole said: I was in Dover Street at quarter past eleven. I was
going into the house in question for some beer. Just as I got to the
door, I met a great many people coming out in a hurry, and I turned
round to see what was up. I saw Burvill fall as if he was tight; I did
not see anyone knock him down. I was about four yards from them; he got
up and walked down the street.
By plaintiff: I was the nearest to you. I never saw anyone strike you. I
fancied you were tight.
By Mr. Gambrill: I was on the path, and Burvill was on the path when he
fell.
The Bench had no hesitation in saying an assault had been committed, and
they fined the defendant 10s. and 13s. costs, or one month's
imprisonment. The fine was paid.
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From the Southeastern Gazette 12 April 1869.
Local News
At the Folkestone Petty Sessions on Tuesday, before R. W. Boarer and J.
Gambrill Esqs., John Delo was
summoned for an assault on William Burvill.
Mr. Till was for the defendant.
Plaintiff said he was a mason, and on Saturday week he went into the
"Oddfellows Arms" (sic), Dover-street, at a few minutes past eleven in the evening, to have a glass of
beer with a friend. While standing in
front of the bar a brother of the defendant came in and insulted him,
and he, not wishing to have a
quarrel, left the house. After he got a few yards from the door the
defendant came up and said, “I have
been waiting for you,” and hit him on the right side of the head with
his fist, knocking him down in the
road. Witness had not seen him to speak to for some time previously. Some
of the bystanders came along
and recommended him to go away. Witness said he would make him pay for
it, and left to go to the police
station.
By M. Till: There was no squabble or quarrel at all with defendant.
The brother followed him out of the house. He was not hurt severely by
the blow or fall. William Swain, butcher, of Dover-street, corroborated.
Mr. Till, for the defendant, called two witnesses, who deposed that Delo
and Burvill tussled together, and
Burvill slipped down, and was not knocked down.
A fine of 10s., costs 13s. was inflicted; in default one month's hard
labour.
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Folkestone Express 14 September 1878.
Saturday, August 7th: Before The Mayor, Alderman Caister, and Captain Carter.
John Macpherson was charged with begging in Dover Street on Friday. P.C.
Keeler said he saw the
prisoner go into the "Oddfellows Arms" (sic) about eight o'clock, and beg
of all who were in the bar.
Prisoner was sentenced to seven days hard labour.
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From Holbein's Visitors' List 16 April 1890.
Inquest.
An inquest was held by the Borough Coroner (John Minter Esq.) on the
body of Charles Tilley Adams,
aged 35, landlord of the "Oddfellows Arms" (sic), Dover Street.
Frederick Adams, an attendant at the Exhibition, identified the body as
that of his brother. Deceased had
been at the "Oddfellows Arms" about seven years; he was married and had
five children.
Previous to taking
the "Oddfellows Arms," he was a steward on board the South Eastern Company's boats. Witness saw him
alive on Sunday night at his house. He was then quite cheerful, and had
always been in the best of spirits.
He was in comfortable circumstances and had a happy home. He was in the
habit of getting up early in
the morning to go for a walk on the pier – that was his constant walk.
He could swim “like a fish”.
Witness' own idea was that he must have slipped over from the pier, and
struck something in falling,
which was the cause of his body floating so long. There were no external
marks of violence on the body
and deceased was not subject to fits.
Bartholomew Noonan, a navy pensioner, now employed as Harbour Porter,
said he knew the deceased,
and had seen him several times on the pier. Had seen him that morning
about 7.10 when he was on the
promenade near the station extension, going towards the pier. The
deceased said “Good morning” to
witness and his mate. Did not see anything strange in his manner. There
was no boat coming into the
harbour, but a small boat belonging to one of the steamers was going
out. After doing a little work, which
occupied him about ten minutes, witness saw something floating about six
or seven yards from the end
of the pier. On looking again, saw it was the body of a man, floating
face downwards. He ran to get a boat
hook, and also told the three men in the boat that there was a man in
the water. They recovered the body
and brought it ashore.
Henry Young, harbour boatman, said that at about 7.40 the previous
witness sang out to him and his
mate that there was a body at the end of the pier. They rowed to the
place and got hold of the body with a
boat hook. Witness, who was in the stern of the boat, then got hold of
it with his hands, keeping the head
up out of the water, and his mate rowed back to the pier as quickly as
possible. The body was about 100
yards from the pier. It did not occur to them that it was possible to
attempt to restore animation before
reaching shore, but they were only a few minutes reaching the pier, and
all the usual methods for
restoring the apparently drowned were then employed, but without
success.
Edward Morris, who was in the boat with last witness, having
corroborated his evidence, Dr. Frederick
Eastes said that he was called at eight o'clock to see the deceased. Had
not found any external marks of
violence on the body. He was not certain that the cause of death was
drowning, because the body was
found floating so soon after the man had been seen alive. There was
froth coming from the mouth, which
was one of the signs of drowning. There was no other external sign which
would point to drowning or
any other cause of death. The body of a person drowned did not usually
rise to the surface for some days.
There were several things, such as fits, concussion of the brain, a blow
received when falling, syncope,
&c., which would cause the body to float. If any of those things
happened the water would not be drawn
into the lungs so much as in the struggles of a drowning person, and the
body would be more likely to
float.
The Coroner said he remembered holding an inquest on a gentleman who was
thrown out of a boat by
it's capsizing, and fell in the water face downwards, his head and body
never going under water.
Dr. Eastes said that the best proof that death was by drowning would be
the quantity of water found in the
stomach, but he had not made a post mortem examination.
John Boorn
(one of the jury) tendered himself as a witness. At 7.10 the deceased
called at witness'
house, the "Harbour Inn," and had two pennyworth of rum and a
halfpennyworth of milk. He was perfectly
sober and asked witness “how things were looking”. In reply to witness
he said that things were pretty
well, and that he had had a fair day on Sunday. Had known deceased a
good many years, and on that
morning he was as well as he had ever seen him. It was about 7.15 when
he left, and he was all right then.
The Coroner said they had two questions to decide – what was the cause
of death, and was it accidental
or self-inflicted. It seemed to him that all the evidence pointed to
accidental death by drowning, but as the
doctor was not positive as to whether it was really a case of drowning
they must word their verdict as
they felt best.
The jury returned a verdict of Found Dead, and, at the suggestion of the
Coroner, added the words
“supposed through accidentally falling into the water”.
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From the Folkestone Chronicle 19 April 1890.
Inquest.
The Folkestone Borough Coroner (J. Minter Esq.) held an inquest at the
Town Hall on Wednesday evening on the body of Charles Tilley Adams, who was found dead in the
sea off the Lighthouse Jetty at Folkestone on Monday morning.
The jury having viewed the body, Frederick Adams said he was turnstile
keeper at the Exhibition Palace.
The deceased was his brother. He was 35 years of age. He identified the
body which the jury had just
viewed as that of his brother, Charles Tilley Adams. The deceased was
the landlord of the "Oddfellows
Arms" (sic), Dover Street. He had occupied the house seven years, and was
married with five children.
Previous to taking the "Oddfellows Arms" he was Chief Steward in the
employ of the South Eastern Railway
Company. He last saw him alive at his house on Sunday night at ten
o'clock. The deceased was very
cheerful. He was always cheerful, and witness had never seen him in a
desponding condition. Deceased
was in the habit of getting up early in the morning to take a walk on
the pier. The deceased was a good
swimmer. Witness was of opinion that he must have slipped over the side
of the pier whilst watching the
boats come round, and it was very probable that he struck something in
falling.
By the Foreman: Deceased was not subject to fits.
Bartholomew Noonan, a harbour porter, stated that he knew the deceased,
and had seen him several
times walking on the pier. Witness saw him between five and ten minutes
past seven that morning.
Witness was standing behind the Customs House. The deceased said “Good
morning” as he passed. Did
not notice anything strange in his manner. There was no boat going in
the harbour. One went out about
half an hour afterwards. Witness followed down on to the pier about ten
minutes after the deceased and,
happening to look over the head of the pier, observed the body of
deceased floating in the water about
six yards to the west of the pier (the Lighthouse Jetty). The body was
floating head downwards. Witness
saw one of the Company's little boats going out of the harbour, and they
picked it up.
Henry Young deposed that he was a harbour boatman in the employ of the
South Eastern Railway
Company. About twenty minutes to eight that morning he was going out of
the harbour with a little boat
to get the steamer alongside, when the last witness told him there was a
body floating at the end of the
pier. He rowed to the place and secured the body with a boathook. It was
about 100 yards off the pier.
Edward Morris, another harbour boatman, said he was in company with
Young when the body was
recovered. It appeared to be quite dead. They moved the legs and arms
when they got ashore, but there
were no signs of life.
Dr. Frederick Eastes said he was called upon to see the deceased at
eight o'clock that morning. Upon
examining the body he found him to be dead. There were no marks of
violence, but he was not certain
that death resulted from drowning. There was froth in the mouth, which
was one sign of drowning. There
were no other signs of drowning, or death from any other cause. The body
was floating, and that was one
reason why he could not say positively that death resulted from
drowning. A body did not generally rise
to the surface for several days. There were several causes why the body
might not sink. Apoplexy or a fit
would cause it to float, or concussion of the brain from injuries
received in falling. He had not held a post
mortem examination.
John Boorn, a juryman, elected to give evidence. He said that the
deceased called at the "Harbour Inn" at
ten minutes past seven that morning. He had 2d. of rum and 1/2 d. of
milk. He was quite sober, and asked
witness how things were looking. Witness said “Very well. What sort of
day did you have yesterday?” He
replied “Very good”. He was in good spirits and left about quarter or
twenty minutes past seven.
The Coroner, in summing up, said it was a very curious fact that the deceased's father, who was formerly
Chief Steward on board the South Eastern boats, was drowned whilst
bathing in East Wear Bay. He was
also a splendid swimmer. He (the Coroner) believed the deceased's elder
brother was drowned in Hong
Kong whilst bathing.
The jury returned a verdict of Found Dead; the supposed cause being
through drowning.
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From the Folkestone Express 19 April 1890.
Inquest.
An inquest was held on Monday before J. Minter Esq., Coroner, on the
body of Charles Tilley Adams,
landlord of the "Oddfellows Arms" (sic), Dover Street, who was found in
the sea near the Pier, on the
morning of the 14th inst.
Frederick Adams, cash-taker at the Exhibition, identified the body as
that of his brother, his age being 35.
He was a married man with five children. He had been landlord of the
"Oddfellows Arms" seven years, and
previous to that he was a steward in the S.E.R. Company's service. He
last saw deceased at his house on
the previous night at ten o'clock. He was in the best of spirits, and
had always been of a cheerful
disposition. He was in comfortable circumstances, and had a happy home.
He was in the habit of going
for a walk early in the morning on the pier and harbour, that being his
usual habit. Deceased could swim
very well. He imagined that deceased was leaning over looking at the
boat, when he slipped over, and
swam about as long as he could, and was then drowned.
Batholomew Noonan, a harbour porter, said he knew the deceased by sight.
He had seen him several
times walking up and down the pier. He saw deceased that morning at
about five minutes to seven. He
was going towards the pier, and said “Good morning” to him. That was
just by the gate leading from the
beach to the pier. The boat would be going out of the harbour about
twenty minutes later. About ten
minutes after he went down on to the pier, and happening to look over
into the sea, he saw a body
floating about six or seven yards from the west end of the S.E.R. pier,
face downwards in the water. He
hailed a boat coming out of the harbour and told the occupants, who went
and picked the body up.
Henry Young, harbour boatman, said about twenty minutes to eight that
morning the last witness
shouted to him and George Bates that there was a body floating in the
water at the end of the pier. They
rowed to it, and recovered the body and brought it ashore. The body was
a few yards from the west pier.
Edward Morris, a mariner in the employ of the S.E.R. Company, said he
rowed out with the last witness
and brought the body ashore. When the body was brought up on to the pier
they tried the usual means to
produce artificial respiration, but without success.
Dr. F. Eastes said that morning at eight o'clock he was called to the
pier to see the deceased. On
examining the body he found him to be dead. He could find no external
marks of violence. He was not
certain that the cause of death was drowning, because of the body
floating. There was froth in the mouth,
which was one of the signs of drowning, and there was no other sign that
would point to drowning or any
other cause of death. The body was floating so soon after he was seen
alive. A body did not rise for some
days usually. A fit or injury would cause a body to float immediately
after death.
John Boorn, a juryman, said that the deceased called at the Harbour Inn
at about ten minutes past seven
that morning. He had two pennyworth of rum and some milk. He was
perfectly sober, quite cheerful, and
in good spirits.
The jury returned a verdict of Found Dead, the supposed cause being
drowning through accidentally
falling into the sea.
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From the Folkestone News 19 April 1890.
Inquest.
Mr. John Minter, Borough Coroner, held an inquest at the Town Hall on
Monday evening, touching the death of Charles Tilley Adams, whose body
was found floating off the pier head at Folkestone harbour on Monday morning.
The jury having been sworn, the following evidence was adduced:-
Frederick Adams, living at 32, Dover Street, and employed by the
Folkestone Pleasure Gardens
Company said: The deceased was my brother. His age was 35. He was
married, and has left a wife and
five children. He was landlord of the "Oddfellows Arms" (sic), 34, Dover
Street. The body now viewed by
the jury I identify as my brother. On the body being found it was
brought to 32, Dover Street. He has had
the "Oddfellows" for seven years, and was previously the chief steward in
the S.E.R. Company's boats. I
last saw deceased alive on Sunday evening at 10 o'clock at his house. He
was then in the best of spirits,
and has always been cheerful. He was in comfortable circumstances, and
had a happy home. He was, to
my knowledge, in the habit of getting up early and taking his accustomed
walk on the harbour. He could
swim like a fish, to use a common saying, and my idea is that he fell
over the pier head accidentally when
watching the boat coming round from the harbour to the pier head. He was
leaning over most likely
where there are no chains, and lost his balance and fell over. He must
have struck something in falling,
and that accounts for him swimming so long on the water. There are no
marks upon him.
Batholomew Noonan said: I am a Navy pensioner and harbour porter, and am
working on the pier. I knew
deceased by sight, and have seen him several times walking on the pier.
I saw him this morning between
five and ten minutes past seven. He was going through the gates at the
entrance to the two stations,
which leads to the beach, and went towards the promenade. He said “Good
morning” to me and another
man. He went in the direction of the pier, and I noticed nothing strange
in his manner. There was no boat
coming in. A boat would be coming out from the harbour about half an
hour later. I went to the end of the
pier about ten minutes after, and, looking over into the sea, saw
something floating on the water about
six or seven yards from the corner of the pier, to the west. I told the
man at the engine, and afterwards
found it was a body floating, with the face downwards. I told the man in
a boat, and they went and picked
him up.
Henry Young said: I am harbour boatman. This morning, about twenty
minutes to eight, Noonan sung out
to us that there was a woman or man afloat outside the harbour. I was in
my boat with George Bates and
we rowed out to the body, and got hold of it with a boat hook and
brought it ashore. I did not see deceased on the pier that morning. The body was floating about a hundred
yards off the west pier.
Edward Morris, mariner, in the employ of the S.E.R. Company, said: At
half past seven I was with the last
witness in the boat and we recovered the body. After we got him on the
pier we tried to restore him, but
found there was no life in him. I was in the stern of the boat and held
the body up with the head out of the
water. I did not know then who it was.
Dr. Fred. Eastes said: At eight o'clock I went to the pier to see the
deceased. I found him dead, and on
examining the body saw no external marks of violence. I cannot be
certain that the cause of death was
drowning, because the body was floating. There was one sign of drowning,
froth from the mouth. No
other sign could be found externally. In cases of drowning the body
doesn't usually float on the surface
of the water for some days. Other causes of death might be apoplexy,
syncope, fits of different kinds,
when the body would be kept from sinking, as the water would not be
drawn into the lungs like it is in the
struggles caused by drowning. If the jury desired, it could be decided
whether deceased was drowned by
seeing if there was water inside the body.
John Boorn, one of the jury, offered to give evidence, and the Coroner
said he was entitled to do so. He
said: About ten minutes past seven this morning the deceased called into
the "Harbour Inn," and had two
pennyworth of rum and a half pennyworth of milk. He was quite sober and
asked how I was getting on. I
asked him how he was; he said he was pretty well, and was going on the
harbour for a walk. He was
perfectly cheerful.
The Coroner summed up, and said it appeared to him that all the
circumstances pointed to the fact that
the deceased came by his death through an accident in the manner
described by his brother. With regard
to the doctor's evidence, he remembered the case of a man falling into
the sea from a boat, when he was
drowned although the body floated on the water till picked up. There was
no evidence to show how the
deceased in the present instance came into the water, and it was for the
jury to say by their verdict how,
in their opinion, death was caused.
After a short consultation the jury found a verdict of Found Dead.
The Coroner suggested that the jury were of opinion deceased was
drowned, and that he came into the
sea by an accident.
This was assented to by the jury.
The Coroner said it was a curious fatality in the family that the father
of deceased was drowned in East
Wear Bay while bathing, and the eldest son, he understood, was also
drowned at Hong Kong.
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From the Southeastern Gazette 22 April 1890.
Local News.
Shortly after seven o'clock on Monday morning a man named Charles Adams,
landlord of the "Oddfellows' Arms" (sic), jumped into the sea from the end of the pier,
and his body was not recovered
until half an hour afterwards. Business difficulties, it is said, were
the cause of the rash act. He leaves a
widow and four young children.
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Folkestone Express 3 May 1890.
Saturday, April 26th: Before The Mayor, Capt. Carter, Alderman Pledge
and J. Clarke Esq.
The licence of the Oddfellows, Dover Street, was temporarily transferred
to James Harris.
Note: This transfer does not appear in More Bastions.
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Folkestone Express 8 May 1890.
Tuesday, May 4th: Before The Mayor, General Cannon, and Alderman
Sherwood.
George Morley was charged with refusing to quit the "Oddfellows Inn"
on the 23rd ult., and also with being drunk and disorderly.
James Harris, landlord of the "Oddfellows," Dover Street, said on the
23rd April, between nine and ten o'clock at night, defendant went to his
house and stood in front of the bar. He had one or two glasses of beer
before witness discovered he was in such an excited state, and he then
refused to draw him any more. Defendant then said he could demand it,
and should leave the house when he chose. Witness requested him to leave
and he refused. He then sent for a constable. P.C. Knowles, who went,
had to use force to eject defendant from the house.
P.C. Knowles said after he had ejected the defendant he went up the
steps and into the house again. He got him out a second time, when he
was very abusive and threatened to “do for him”.
Defendant was fined 5s. and 9s. costs in each case, or 14 days' in
default.
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From the Folkestone Express 3 May 1890.
Saturday, April 26th: Before The Mayor, Capt. Carter, Alderman Pledge
and J. Clarke Esq.
The licence of the Oddfellows, Dover Street, was temporarily transferred
to James Harris.
Note: This transfer does not appear in More Bastions. |
From the Folkestone Express 14 June 1890.
Wednesday, July 11th: before J. Clark, J. Hoad, J. Dunk, F. Boykett and
E.T. Ward Esqs.
The licence of the Oddfellows Inn, Dover Street, was transferred to
James Harris.
Note: This transfer does not appear in More Bastions.
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Folkestone Up To Date 24 May 1894.
Inquest.
Mr. Haines, Deputy Coroner, held an inquest at the Town Hall on Monday
evening, on the body of Henry Skelton, a Custom House Officer, residing
at 34, Dover Street.
Mr. Frederick Adams, landlord of the Oddfellows Arms (sic), identified
the body. He deposed that he had known the deceased as a friend and a
customer for over two years, during which time he had borne a good
character. He was a Custom House Officer. Adams further deposed that on
Saturday last, at half past eight, deceased went into the Oddfellows Inn
and had a glass of ale. He stayed half an hour, went out, and returned
between 10 and 11. He was then perfectly sober, and had a glass of beer
and porter, which he drank, and left at 10 minutes to 11, bidding Adams
goodnight. In leaving the Oddfellows he had to go down some steps. About
half an hour afterwards Adams was called to assist helping him up out of
the street and to carry him into his house, next door to the Oddfellows.
Alfred Gaines, a labourer, deposed that he was in Dover Street at 11
o'clock on Saturday evening, about 12 yards from the Oddfellows Arms. He
knew the deceased, and saw him fall backwards over the railings of the
steps at 34, Dover Street. He fell on his head. Witness went to his
assistance, and found him bleeding from the right temple and
unconscious. In five minutes Adams and another man came to his
assistance, and they carried deceased indoors and sent for a doctor.
F. Impett, shoemaker, of 44, East Cliff, corroborated the statement of
the previous witness.
Mrs. Adams, wife of Horace Adams, residing at 34, Dover Street, deposed
that deceased had lodged with her for a fortnight. He had a latch key,
and could have let himself in. She was out herself when the accident
happened. The deceased had never complained of having anything the
matter with him.
Dr. Frederick Eastes deposed that he was called at 11.20 on Saturday
night to see the deceased. He found him suffering from a contused wound
on the head, which was bleeding. In his opinion the deceased was also
intoxicated. He attended to the wound, and promised to see him again on
the following morning. Before visiting him on the following morning,
someone came to him and said the deceased was dying. When he arrived at
the house he found him dead. Death was caused by fracture of the base of
the skull.
The jury returned a verdict of Accidental Death.
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Folkestone 24 May 1894.
Inquest
Mr. Haines, Deputy Coroner, held an inquest at the Town Hall on Monday
evening, on the body of Henry Skelton, a Custom House Officer, residing at 34, Dover Street.
Mr. Frederick Adams, landlord of the
"Oddfellows Arms" (sic), identified
the body. He deposed that he had
known the deceased as a friend and a customer for over two years, during
which time he had borne a
good character. He was a Custom House Officer. Adams further deposed
that on Saturday last, at half
past eight, deceased went into the "Oddfellows Inn" and had a glass of
ale. He stayed half an hour, went
out, and returned between 10 and 11. He was then perfectly sober, and
had a glass of beer and porter,
which he drank, and left at 10 minutes to 11, bidding Adams goodnight.
In leaving the "Oddfellows" he had
to go down some steps. About half an hour afterwards Adams was called to
assist helping him up out of
the street and to carry him into his house, next door to the "Oddfellows."
Alfred Gaines, a labourer, deposed that he was in Dover Street at 11
o'clock on Saturday evening, about
12 yards from the "Oddfellows Arms." He knew the deceased, and saw him
fall backwards over the railings
of the steps at 34, Dover Street. He fell on his head. Witness went to
his assistance, and found him
bleeding from the right temple and unconscious. In five minutes Adams
and another man came to his
assistance, and they carried deceased indoors and sent for a doctor.
F. Impett, shoemaker, of 44, East Cliff, corroborated the statement of
the previous witness.
Mrs. Adams, wife of Horace Adams, residing at 34, Dover Street, deposed
that deceased had lodged with
her for a fortnight. He had a latch key, and could have let himself in.
She was out herself when the
accident happened. The deceased had never complained of having anything
the matter with him.
Dr. Frederick Eastes deposed that he was called at 11.20 on Saturday
night to see the deceased. He
found him suffering from a contused wound on the head, which was
bleeding. In his opinion the
deceased was also intoxicated. He attended to the wound, and promised to
see him again on the
following morning. Before visiting him on the following morning, someone
came to him and said the
deceased was dying. When he arrived at the house he found him dead.
Death was caused by fracture of
the base of the skull.
The jury returned a verdict of Accidental Death.
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From the Folkestone Chronicle 26 May 1894.
Inquest
An inquest was held on Monday evening at the Town Hall before Mr. G.W.
Haines (Deputy Coroner), on
the body of Henry Skelton, aged 32, who accidentally met his death on
the previous Saturday evening by
falling down a flight of stone steps attached to a house in Dover
Street. The following evidence was
brought before the jury, of whom Mr. Alfred Howard was the foreman.
Mr. Frederick Adams identified the body of the deceased as that of a
Custom House officer, who had
been lodging at 32, Dover Street for the last fortnight or three weeks.
On Saturday evening last the
deceased came into the "Oddfellows Arms" (sic) about eight and stayed for
half an hour. He returned
between 10 and 11, and had a glass of beer and porter. He was sober, and
had nothing else to drink
during the time he remained there. He left about 10 minutes to 11. In
about a quarter of an hour after,
witness was called to render help, as the deceased had fallen down the
steps which led to the door of his
lodgings. He had known him for the last two years, and could find no
fault with his habits.
Alfred Ganes, of 12, Saffron's Place, labourer, deposed that he was in
Dover Street about 11 on the night
in question, and saw the deceased fall over the rail on the top of the
steps. He appeared to turn a
complete somersault and fall straight on to his head. He picked him up,
but the poor man was not
conscious.
Frederick Hippett, 44, East Cliff, shoemaker, was with the previous
witness, and gave a similar account
of the accident.
Mrs. Jane Adams, wife of Mr. Horace Adams, fireman, 32, Dover Street,
said the deceased lodged with
them. She was out when the accident occurred, but the deceased could
have got in as he had a latch key.
She was at her brother-in-law's next door, and hearing the noise went
out and opened the door for them
to bring the deceased in. Eleven o'clock was late for him to be out.
Frederick Adams, re-called, said he found the
deceased's latch key the
next morning on the top step.
Dr. Fred Eastes stated that he was called in to see the deceased. He
found him lying on the bed at 32,
Dover Street, suffering from a contused wound on the right side of the
head, which was bleeding. He was
intoxicated. He dressed the wound and said he would see him in the
morning. Next morning Mr. Adams
came to tell him he thought he was dying, and on hurrying down he found
he was dead. Judging from
what he heard of his fall and the symptoms, he was of opinion deceased
died from fracture of the base of
the skull. Deceased spoke in a drunken manner and asked “What are you
doing there?” three times. He
should not think that was accounted for by the fall. He also struggled
and smelt of liquor. Whether from
the fall or drink he had not enough sense to know what they were doing
for him.
In summing up, the Coroner said one would naturally have expected as a
result of the fall the deceased
would have talked incoherently. The doctor was not very emphatic in his
assertion, and it would be for
the jury to say whether they thought intoxication had contributed to the
accident. If so, he was afraid it
would be their duty to say so.
Mr. Adams said he wished to remark that the deceased smelling of drink
might be explained by the fact
that he had rubbed the deceased's lips with brandy to endeavour to
restore consciousness. When he last
saw him that evening he was quite right and capable, although he might
have had a glass.
The doctor further added he was unable to judge as to the degree of the
deceased's intoxication, but he
quite agreed with the Coroner that some of the symptoms might have been
caused by the fall.
Juryman Leckie: The struggling, for instance? – Yes, an injury to the
brain would cause a great deal of
struggling.
The jury, after a short deliberation, returned a verdict of accidental
death.
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From the Folkestone Chronicle 20 December 1895.
Saturday, December 14th: Before The Mayor, Surgeon General Gilborne, and
Messrs. W.G. Herbert and
W. Wightwick. Mr. Adams, of the "Oddfellows," Dover Street, was granted an extension for
the first annual dinner of the
“Sick and Dividend Society”.
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From the Folkestone Express 21 December 1895.
Saturday, December 14th: Before The Mayor, Surgeon General Gilborne, W.G.
Herbert, and W.
Wightwick Esqs.
Mr. Adams, of the "Oddfellows," Dover Street, was granted an extension for
the first annual dinner of the
Sick and Dividend Society.
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From the Folkestone Chronicle 16 May 1896.
Saturday, May 19h: Before The Mayor, Messrs. C.J. Pursey, W. Wighwick,
and W.G. Herbert.
Frederick Adams was summoned for having his house open for the sale of
drink during prohibited hours
on 25th April. Mr. Martyn Mowll appeared for the defendant.
Sergt. Lilley stated that on Saturday, 25th April, in company with P.C.
Reed, he watched the "Oddfellows"
public house in Dover Street. At 5.35 he saw two men go to the side door
opening into Saffron's Place,
and one of them tried it. It was fastened. At twenty seven minutes to
six he saw defendant come
downstairs, and at twenty two minutes to six the two men who had tried
the door went in. They stayed
inside about a minute and a half, and then came out. Two other men went
in. Witness and Reed
afterwards entered, and found in the bar two men named Wade and White.
Wade was drinking beer out
of a glass, and White was served with a pint of beer by the landlord in
witness's presence. After they were
gone, the landlord said “I haven't got any excuse to offer, only the men
came in for a pint before they
went to work”.
Mr. Mowll, for the defence, put forward the plea that defendant, who had
an excellent character, and had
kept the house for several years without complaint, was misled by a
clock which was a little fast. No
doubt he had committed a technical offence, but he suggested that the
justice of the case would be met
by the summons being dismissed, merely on payment of the costs.
Defendant would be more careful in
future, and would in all probability come before the Licensing Committee
at the proper time, and ask
permission to open his house a little earlier, so that he would be able
to serve men with some kind of
refreshment before they went to their work.
Superintendent Taylor said there had been no case against the defendant
before.
The Bench imposed a fine of 10s. and 9s. costs, treating it as a
technical offence.
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From the Folkestone Express 16 May 1896.
Saturday, May 9th: Before The Mayor, C.J. Pursey, W. Wightwick, and W.G.
Herbert Esqs.
Frederick Adams was summoned for having his house open for the sale of
drink during prohibited hours
on the 25th April. Mr. Martyn Mowll appeared for the defendant.
Sergeant Lilley stated that on Saturday, 25th April, in company with
P.C. Reed, he watched the "Oddfellows" public house, in Dover Street. At 5.45 he saw two men go to
the side door, opening into
Saffron's Place, and one of them tried it. It was fastened. At 27
minutes to six he saw defendant come
downstairs, and at 22 minutes to six the two men, who had previously
tried the door, went in. They had
waited outside from the time they tried the door till they went in.
Before they went in he heard one of the
men say “He's about now”. They stayed inside about a minute and a half,
and came out. Two other men
then went in. He and Read then went in, and found in the bar two men
named Wade and White. Wade was
drinking beer out of a glass, and White was served with a pint of beer
by the landlord in witness's
presence. He said to the defendant “What is the meaning of these men
being here?” He replied “What is
the time, then?” Witness said “Twenty minutes to six”. There was a clock
in the bar, and it pointed the
time as ten minutes to six. After they were gone the landlord said “I
haven't got any excuse to offer, only
the men came in for a pint before they went to work”.
By Mr. Mowll: The actual time by the clock in the bar was not seven
minutes to six. Adams did not say “It's
pretty close work, Sergeant. My clock is seven minutes to six”. There
are no houses in Folkestone with an
early opening licence.
Mr. Mowll said there was no dispute as to the facts, but there was a
little difference as to the actual time.
The Bench knew the situation of the house, in the locality where there
was a large number of working
men, who often desired some refreshment before going to work for two
hours. Defendant had an
excellent character, and had kept the house for several years without
any complaint. The defendant's
clock might have been a little fast, but if there was a good fault a
publican could have it was to keep his
clock a little in advance of actual time, so as to ensure the closing of
the house at eleven o'clock at night,
when those offences were usually committed. He expressed surprise that
there were no houses in
Folkestone licensed to open before six o'clock for the accommodation of
men going to work early in the
morning. In Dover 33 houses had early opening licences, and 17 of them
had a right to open at three
o'clock, and 16 at five o'clock, and it was within his own knowledge
that there were several publicans
that did a very large trade in selling coffee to people before they went
to work. In the ordinary course of
things working men could not get refreshments in their own houses at
that time in the morning, before
they started for their work at six o'clock, and in cold weather to a man
who was at all delicate it was a great comfort to him if he could get something before he began his day's
work. No doubt the defendant
had committed a technical offence, but he suggested the justice of the
case by the summons being
dismissed, merely on payment of the costs. Defendant would be very
careful in future, and would in all
probability come before the licensing committee at the proper time and
ask permission to open his house
a little earlier, so that he would be able to serve those men with some
kind of refreshment before they
went to their work.
Superintendent Taylor said there had been no case against the defendant
before, but in consequence of
complaints made to him he gave instructions for the house to be watched.
Mr. Mowll said there had been no complaint made to defendant. But he
happened to have had some
unpleasantness with a neighbour, and under those circumstances
neighbours made themselves very
officious.
The Bench imposed a fine of 10s. and 9s. costs, treating it as a
technical offence.
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From the Folkestone Chronicle 19 December 1896.
Saturday, December 12th: Before Mr. W. Wightwick, Mr. W.G. Herbert, and
General Gwyn.
Mr. Adams, of the "Oddfellows Inn," Dover Street, applied for an extension
on the occasion of the annual
dinner of the Folkestone Sick and Dividend Society, which was granted.
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From the Folkestone Express 19 December 1896.
Saturday, December 12th: Before W. Wightwick and W.G. Herbert Esqs., and
General Gwyn.
Mr. Adams was granted an hour's extension on the occasion of the annual
dinner of the Sick Divident
Society at the "Oddfellows Inn," Dover Street. |
From the Folkestone Chronicle 26 June 1897.
Local News
At the Dover County Police Court on Thursday, John Woods, foreman of the
men employed at the works
near the Warren, Folkestone, appeared to answer a summons charging him
with selling beer without a
licence. Mr. F. Hall prosecuted, and Mr. M. Mowll defended. P.S. Weller, K.C.C., said he visited the works on May 26th. By the aid
of a pair of field glasses he saw a
boy go to the defendant's hut and come away with four glass bottles,
which he handed to some men
working near. This was repeated several times. On the 27th witness saw
defendant, who said the beer
was paid for beforehand, and that it came from Mr. Adams, of the
"Oddfellows Inn," Dover Street,
Folkestone. He said he got a commission for storing the beer and
collecting the money. A boy named
Spratt said he did the fetching and carrying of the beer for the gang he
was in from the foreman's hut.
Every man paid in advance for a pint of beer a day, and could have more.
Teetotallers had Kops Ale. Mr. Mowll submitted that there had been no breach of the law. He called
the defendant, who said he had
300 men under him, and at their request he got them some beer, they
signing a book ordering it. They
paid for it beforehand. Frederick Adams, "Oddfellows Inn," Folkestone, said the beer was obtained
from his brewers, and sent
direct to the railway siding at the Warren. The Bench convicted the defendant, and fined him £4 16s. 6d., including
costs and solicitors' fees. Mr. Mowll afterwards applied for and obtained a licence for Mr. Adams to
sell beer at the works. |
From the Folkestone Express 26 June 1897.
Local News
At the Dover Police Court on Thursday, John Woods, foreman of the men
employed on the South Eastern
works at the Warren, between Dover and Folkestone, was summoned for
selling beer without a licence.
Mr. F. Hall, of Folkestone, prosecuted, and Mr. M. Mowll defended. Sergeant Weller, of the K.C.C., said that on the 26th May he went over
to the works at the Warren, where
there was a large number of men employed. They went to a spot looking
down on the defendant's hut,
and were about three hundred yards from it. With the aid of a pair of
field glasses, about 2.50, they saw a
lad named Spratt go to the defendant's hut, and leave shortly afterwards
carrying four glass bottles. He
took them across the line to a forge and handed them to some men working
there. About 3 p.m. a man
came across the line to defendant's hut, and he left shortly afterwards
carrying a heavy wooden case. At
3.10 they saw the lad Spratt go to the hut again, carrying a bag on his
arm, and when he left he had
something in the bag. He went up the line to a gang of men working
there, and they saw him take some
bottles out of the bag and give them to the men. Four of the men put
their hands into their pockets and
handed the lad something, which he took, and after examining it, handed
them something back. On the
27th witness saw the defendant and had some conversation with him.
Defendant said he had not been
selling beer without a licence, and that the men had paid for the beer
beforehand, and he had a book
which could prove it. He said further that the beer was obtained from
Mr. Adams, of the "Oddfellows Arms"
(sic), Dover Street, Folkestone, and that he obtained a small commission
for storing the beer and
collecting the money. Alfred Spratt, a lad employed at the Warren works, gave evidence to the
effect that he did the fetching and carrying for the gang, and it was part of his work to fetch beer for
the men from the foreman's hut,
and he did so in the ordinary course on the 26th of May. Every man was
allowed a bottle of beer a day,
and it was all paid for beforehand. If a man did not want his bottle, he
could let any other man have it, but
there was no more than one bottle per man issued. Teetotallers were
supplied with Kop's ale. Mr. Mowll, in defence, submitted that the action of the defendant was
not a breach of the law. The
defendant was a man of very high character, and was in charge of a large
body of men whose hours of
labour made it an almost necessity that they should be supplied with
beer. For example, on some
occasions they worked 46 hours at a stretch, and on others 36 hours. Mr.
Woods had devised a means by
which the men could be supplied with refreshments, and that was by
having the liquor sent over from a
fully licensed landlord in Folkestone. The defendant had dealt with a
most difficult class of men in a very
proper manner, consistent with sobriety, and it was to his credit that
there had not been a single accident
from any cause since he had been in charge of the works. John Woods, the defendant, said he had had as many as 300 men under him
at a time, and last October
the men asked him to get them some beer. He told them that he would if
they signed the book produced,
and after that was done he ordered it from Mr. Adams. Frederick Adams, the landlord of the
"Oddfellows Inn," Folkestone, said
that the order for the beer was
executed by his brewer, and was sent by him direct to the siding at the
Warren. The Bench said that it was a very proper and important case to be
brought before a Court. They were of
opinion that it could not be placed in the same category as that of a
restaurant keeper sending out for
liquor for his customers, and therefore they had decided to convict.
Defendant would be fined £4 16s.
6d., including costs and solicitor's fee. Mr. Mowll afterwards applied for and obtained an occasional licence for
Mr. Adams to sell at the works. |
From the Folkestone Chronicle 11 December 1897.
Wednesday, December 8th: Before The Mayor, Messrs. J. Fitness, and W.G.
Herbert. Mr. Adams was accorded an extension of an hour at the Oddfellows Inn on
the occasion of a public
dinner. |
From the Folkestone Express 11 December 1897.
Wednesday, December 8th: Before The Mayor, J. Fitness, and W.G. Herbert
Esqs. An hour's extension was granted to the "Oddfellows Arms" (sic) on the
occasion of an annual dinner. |
From the Folkestone Express 14 January 1899.
Saturday, January 7th: Before Alderman Banks, and W.G. Herbert and J.
Fitness Esqs. Mr. Adams applied for an hour's extension for an annual dinner at the
"Oddfellows Inn," Dover Street.
Granted. |
From Folkestone 14 January 1899.
Local News
An extension of time was granted to Mr. Adams, of the "Oddfellows," Dover
Street, for a dinner. |
Folkestone Up To Date 14 January 1899.
Local News.
The tenancy of the Rose Hotel was transferred, and a temporary licence
granted by the Magistrates on Saturday last. An extension of time was
granted to Mr. Adams, of the Oddfellows, Dover Street, for a dinner.
The Magistrates were Mr. W.G. Herbert and Mr. John Fitness, while
Alderman Banks occupied the chair, but it was not clear to the public
whether he took part in the proceeding or not. He certainly did not
vacate the chair. As regards Mr. Herbert, we have no remarks to make,
but we always understood that licensing justices must neither be
directly or indirectly connected with the liquor traffic, yet Alderman
Banks's firm act as agents for many brewers and have a great deal to do
with valuing and transferring tenancies of the same.
Mr. Fitness, we are informed, is the owner of two shops which have off
licences for the sale of wine, spirits and beer, one being Makin's in
Guildhall Street, and the other Messrs, Fisk's on the Sandgate Road.
We only thought that probably some others might think these gentlemen
indirectly interested in the trade.
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From the Folkestone Herald 3 June 1899.
Folkestone Police Court
On Saturday a fisherman named Richard Brice was fined £1 and 10s. costs
for being drunk and
disorderly. P.C. Dunster deposed that on the 22nd, at nearly midnight, he found the
defendant, who was very drunk,
sitting on the doorstep of the "Oddfellows Inn," his clothes strewed about
the street; he used bad
language. The whole neighbourhood was disturbed. The defendant was away at sea. |
From the Folkestone Chronicle 16 December 1899.
Wednesday, December 13th: Before Alderman Banks, and Messrs. Wightwick,
Herbert, and Pursey. Frederick Adams' application to extend premises known as the
"Oddfellows
Inn," Dover Street, was
granted. |
From the Folkestone Express 16 December 1899.
Wednesday, December 13th: Before John Banks, W. Wightwick, W.G. Herbert,
and C.J. Pursey Esqs. Mr. Adams was granted an occasional licence for a dinner of the
Oddfellows Society. Oddfellows Inn 1900s
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From the Folkestone Express 30 June 1900.
Monday, June 25th: Before J. Fitness, W. Wightwick, W. Salter, and C.J.
Pursey Esqs., and Lieut. Col.
Hamilton. Mr. H. Adams, who has for many years been a member of the Folkestone
Fire Brigade, applied for a
temporary licence for the "Oddfellows Inn," Dover Street. It was granted. |
Fromk the Folkestone Express 15 September 1900.
Wednesday, September 12th: Before J. Fitness, J. Pledge, W. Wightwick,
and J. Stainer Esqs. Thomas Adams applied for a transfer of the licence of the
"Oddfellows
Arms" (sic), Dover Street. Mr. W.
Charles James appeared for the applicant. The Bench granted it. |
From the Folkestone Herald 15 September 1900.
Folkestone Police Court
On Monday, transfer was granted to the following: Mr. Horace Adams for
the "Oddfellows."
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From the Folkestone Express 15 December 1900.
Saturday, December 8th: Before J. Stainer Esq., and Lieut. Col. Westropp. Mr. Adams, of the
"Oddfellows Arms," Dover Street, was granted an
extension of time on Friday, when the
club will hold their annual dinner. |
From the Folkestone Herald 15 December 1900.
Monday, December 10th: Before Messrs. Fitness, Swoffer, and Herbert, and
Lieut. Colonel Hamilton. An application was made by Mr. Adams, of the
"Oddfellows Arms" (sic), for
an extension of time for an hour
on Friday, the 14th inst. Granted. |
From the Folkestone Express 14 December 1901.
Wednesday, December 11th: Before W. Wightwick, W.G. Herbert, and G.I.
Swoffer Esqs. Mr. Adams, landlord of the "Oddfellows Inn," Dover Street, was granted an
extension of time on the
occasion of the annual dinner of the Oddfellows. |
From the Folkestone Herald 11 April 1903.
Wednesday, April 8th: Before Messrs. W. Wightwick, Lieut. Colonel
Hamilton, G.I. Swoffer, and E.T.
Ward. James McLean was charged with deserting from the Scottish Rifles, at
Dover. He pleaded Guilty. Inspector Lilley stated that at 11.30 on Tuesday night he saw prisoner
walking up Dover Street. He saw
him go to the "Oddfellows public" house, where he stood knocking for some
minutes, getting no answer. As he had a military appearance about him he questioned him. In reply to
his enquiries, prisoner said he
came from Deal and Dover, at which latter place he had been working for
a week. His name, he said, was
William Wilson, and he described himself as a labourer. Asked if he was
a soldier, he replied in the
negative. Not being satisfied with his answers, the Inspector took him
to the police station. Here prisoner
said that last week he worked on the Pier at Dover, and lodged with a
Mrs. Jackson in Roseberry Street,
Dover. In communication with the Dover police, it was ascertained that
this statement was false, as there
was no such street in Dover. McLean then said he had worked at
Winchester, but subsequently he told
the Inspector not to trouble any further, admitting that he was a
deserter from the Scottish Rifles. Prisoner now had nothing to say. An officer, who was in Court, said prisoner should have gone out with a
draft to South Africa that
morning. Prisoner was handed over to an escort who were present in Court, and a
reward of £1 was granted to
Inspector Lilley for having effected the arrest. |
Folkestone Daily News 26 February 1908.
Wednesday, February 26th: Before Messrs. Herbert, Swoffer, Leggett,
Linton, Stainer, Carpenter, and
Boyd. The licence of the "Oddfellows" was transferred from Mr. Adams to Mr. A.
Hartley. |
From the Folkestone Herald 29 February 1908.
Wednesday, February 26th: Before Mr. W.G. Herbert, Councillors G. Boyd
and W.C. Carpenter, Major
Leggett, Messrs. J. Stainer, R.J. Linton, and G.I. Swoffer. The licence of the
"Oddfellows Inn," Dover Street was transferred from Mr.
Adams to Mr. Hartley. |
From the Folkestone Express 29 February 1908.
Wednesday, February 26th: Before W.G. Herbert Esq., Major Leggett, J.
Stainer, W.C. Carpenter, G.I.
Swoffer, R.J. Linton, and G. Boyd Esqs. The transfer of the licence of the
"Oddfellows Inn," Dover Street, from
Mr. Adams to Mr. Hartley (temporary
authority having been granted) was confirmed. |
From the Folkestone Daily News 2 March 1908.
Adjourned Licensing Sessions.
Monday, March 2nd: Before Messrs. Ward, Carpenter, Herbert, Leggett,
Fynmore, Linton, Boyd, and
Stainer. The licence of the "Oddfellows Inn," which had been temporarily
transferred to Mr. Hartley, was renewed
without any opposition. |
From the Folkestone Express 7 March 1908.
Adjourned Licensing Sessions.
The adjourned Licensing Sessions for the Borough took place on Monday,
when the licensing Justices
on the Bench were E.T. Ward Esq., Lieut. Cols. Fynmore and Hamilton, and
J. Stainer, W.G. Herbert,
W.C. Carpenter, R.J. Linton and G. Boyd.
"Oddfellows Inn"
The licence of the "Oddfellows," Radnor Street (sic) was granted to Mr.
Hartley, a temporary licence having
been obtained.
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From the Folkestone Herald 7 March 1908.
Adjourned Licensing Sessions.
Monday, March 2nd: Before Mr. E.T. Ward, Councillor W.C. Carpenter,
Councillor G. Boyd, Col.
Fynmore, Col. Hamilton, Messrs, W.G. Herbert, and J. Stainer. The adjourned Licensing Sessions for the Borough of Folkestone were held
at the Town Hall on Monday
morning, when the licences of three houses, the Railway Inn, Beach
Street (Beer and Co.), the Eagle,
High Street (Style and Winch), and the Bricklayers Arms, Fenchurch
Street (Ash and Co.), were referred
to the Compensation Authority for East Kent. The Oddfellows Inn
Mr. Hartley, the new licensee of the Odfellows Inn, was granted a
renewal of the licence, temporary
authority in connection with which had already been granted him. Oddfellows Inn 1910 - 1914. |
From the Folkestone Express 27 May 1911.
Thursday, May 25th: Before W.G. Herbert, J. Stainer and R.J. Linton Esqs.,
and Major Leggett. William Henry Farley, a sailor, was charged with being drunk and
incapable. He pleaded Not Guilty. P.C. Piddock said at 7.30 p.m. the previous day he was in Dover Street,
when he saw the prisoner
staggering from one side of the street to the other. He cautioned him
and told him to go away. Prisoner
said “All right”, but entered the "Oddfellows Inn," from which he was
ejected. Prisoner was drunk, and
narrowly escaped falling through a shop window. He then took him into
custody. P.S. Sales, who was on duty at the police station, said prisoner asked
for a doctor, and Dr. Bateman
attended and gave a certificate. Fined 2s. 6d. and 5s. 6d. costs, or seven days'. |
From the Folkestone Daily News 13 February 1913.
Annual Licensing Sessions.
The Licensing Bench on Wednesday, February 12th, was constituted as
follows: Messrs. Ward, Boyd,
Leggett, Swoffer, Stainer, Herbert, Fynmore, Hamilton, and Linton. The Chief Constable read his report (for which see Folkestone Express). The Chairman said the report of the Chief Constable was very
satisfactory, but the Bench were still of
opinion that there were too many licensed houses in a certain portion of
the town. Therefore a number
would have their licences withheld until the adjourned sessions on the
ground of redundancy. Formal
opposition to the renewals would be served so that full enquiries could
be made into the trade of these
houses, with a view of referring some of them to the Compensation
Authority. The following were the licences which were held over: The Raglan, Dover
Street; Oddfellows, Dover
Street; Royal Oak, North Street; Isle of Cyprus, Bayle; Lord Nelson,
Radnor Street; Lifeboat, North
Street; Wellington, Beach Street. |
From the Folkestone Express 15 February 1913.
Annual Licensing Sessions.
The Brewster Sessions were held on Wednesday morning. The Justices
present were E.T. Ward Esq.,
Major Leggett, Lieut. Col. Fynmore, Lieut. Col. Hamilton, G. Boyd, G.I.
Swoffer, R.J. Linton, and J.
Stainer Esqs. Mr. Boyd and Mr. Stainer did not take part in the
licensing business, not being on the
committee. The Chief Constable read his report as follows: Gentlemen, I have the
honour to report that there are at
present within your jurisdiction 119 places licensed for the sale of
intoxicating liquor by retail, viz., Full
Licences 73, Beer On 7, Beer Off 6, Beer and Spirit Dealers Off 15,
Grocers, etc. Off 9, Confectioners'
Wine On 3, Chemists Wine Off 5. This gives an average, according to the
Census of 1911, of one licence
to every 281 persons, or one on licence to every 418 persons. As
compared with the return submitted last
year this is a decrease of two licences. At the general annual licensing
meeting last year a new licence
was granted for the sale of beer off the premises at Morehall, and two
other off licences were
discontinued. At the last adjourned general annual licensing meeting the renewal of
the licence of the Rendezvous
Hotel was referred to the Compensation Committee on the ground of
redundancy, and at the meeting of
that Committee on the 7th August, 1912, the licence was refused, and
after payment of compensation the
house was closed for the sale of drink on the 28th December last. During the past year fifteen of the licences have been transferred; one
licence was transferred twice. Six occasional licences have been granted for the sale of drink on
premises not ordinarily licensed for
such sale, and 34 extensions of the usual time of closing have been
granted to licence holders on special
occasions. During the year ended 31st December last 85 persons (62 males and 23
females) were proceeded against
for drunkenness; 64 were convicted and 21 discharged. In the preceding year 54 males and 31 females were proceeded against, of
whom 66 were convicted and
19 discharged. The number convicted of drunkenness last year, viz., 46 males and 18
females, is, I find, the smallest
number convicted in any year since 1896. Of those proceeded against, 31 were residents of the Borough, 34 were
persons of no fixed abode, 13
residents of other districts and seven were soldiers. No conviction has been recorded against any licence holder during the
past year. Proceedings were
taken against the holder of an off licence for a breach of the closing
regulations, but the case was
dismissed. Eleven clubs where intoxicating liquor is sold are registered in
accordance with the Act of 1902. There are 17 places licensed for music and dancing, eight for music
only, and two for public billiard
playing. I have no complaint to make as to the conduct of any of the licensed
houses, and offer no opposition to
the renewal of any of the present licences on the ground of misconduct. The Chairman said it was a very satisfactory report indeed, but they
felt that there were still too many
licensed houses, particularly in certain portions of the Borough, and
the Justices would direct that a
certain number of the applications for renewal should be deferred till
the Adjourned Sessions, so that
they might have evidence as to the trade those houses were doing, and
decide whether any of them
ought to be referred to the Compensation Authority. The houses to be dealt with were seven in number, namely; the Raglan
Tavern, the Oddfellows, the Royal
Oak, the Isle of Cyprus, the Lord Nelson, the Lifeboat, and the
Wellington. With those exceptions the existing licences were granted. |
From the Folkestone Herald 15 February 1913.
Annual Licensing Sessions.
Wednesday, February 12th: Before Mr. E.T. Ward, Lieut. Col. Fynmore,
Lieut. Col. Hamilton, Major
Leggett, Mr. W.G. Herbert, Mr. J. Stainer, and Mr. G. Boyd. The Chief Constable presented his annual report (for which see
Folkestone Express). The Chairman remarked that the report was a very satisfactory one, but,
in the opinion of the Bench,
there were still too many public houses in certain portions of the town,
and they would defer the renewal
of certain of the licences to the adjourned sessions, so that they might
have evidence as to what trade
they were doing, and see if any of them were to be referred to the
compensation authority. The licensees of the Raglan Tavern, the Oddfellows, Dover Street, the
Royal Oak, North Street, the Isle of
Cyprus, the Lord Nelson, the Lifeboat, and the Wellington were called
forward. The Chairman said the renewal of the licences of those public houses
would be deferred until the
adjourned licensing sessions, and notice of opposition would be served
in the meantime on the ground
of redundancy. The Chief Constable would be directed to serve the
notices. The licences of all the other houses were then renewed. |
From the Folkestone Daily News 10 March 1913.
Adjourned Licensing Sessions.
Monday, March 10th: Before Messrs. Ward, Hamilton, Stainer, Herbert,
Harrison, Morrison, Linton, Boyd,
Stace, Jenner, and Giles. There was again a large crowd in Court on Monday morning, when the fate
of 7 licensed houses (referred
for redundancy) hung in the balance. At the commencement of the proceedings the Chief Constable said the
Bench had to consider the seven
licences adjourned from the annual sessions on the ground of redundancy.
He invited the Bench to hear
the evidence in regard to such houses separately and give a decision
after hearing all the evidence.
The "Oddfellows," Dover Street.
Tenant, Mr. A. Hartley, brewers, Messrs. A. Leney.
The usual objections were offered by the Chief Constable, who said he
considered the premises ill-adapted for the business. He had no doubt that a very considerable trade
was done, but if the licence
were taken away there would be no inconvenience whatever.
Mr. A. Hartley said he had held the licence of the house for the last
five years; he was not tied for spirits.
Two clubs met at his house, he did a good trade, made a good living, and
wished to keep on the licence.
Mr. A. Leney gave the average barrels sold as 6½ per week, and said the
house showed an increase.
The Bench retired at 4 p.m., and returned at 4.10, the Chairman
announcing that the Lord Nelson and the
Isle of Cyprus would be referred to Canterbury and the other five
licences would be renewed.
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Folkestone Express 15 March 1913.
Adjourned Licensing Sessions.
At the annual licensing sessions seven licences were deferred to the
adjourned sessions, which were
held at the Town Hall on Monday. The Magistrates on the Bench were E.T.
Ward Esq., Lieut. Col. Hamilton, Alderman Jenner, and W.G. Herbert, J. Stainer, R.J. Linton, G.
Boyd, W.J. Harrison, J.J.
Giles, E.T. Morrison and A. Stace Esqs.
The Oddfellows
The next licence to be considered was that of the Oddfellows. Mr. Drake
represented the owners, Messrs.
Leney, and the licensee, Mr. A. Hartley. The Chief Constable said Mr. Hartlet obtained the licence in 1908. The
registered owners were Messrs.
Leney and Co., Dover, and the rateable value of the house was £24. The
house was situate in Dover Street at the corner of Saffron's Place. The front entrance in Dover
Street was approached by five steps
from the street, and it opened into a front bar. There was a side
entrance from Saffron's Place, which
opened into the lobby, from which there was a bar or taproom which
overlooked the back yard. On the
first floor, approached by stairs from the lobby or side bar, was a club
room in front, 15ft. by 12ft., and
another behind 11ft. by 10ft., with a moveable partition, so that the
two rooms could be thrown into one.
The living room of the licensee was in the basement. The entrance to it
was by five steps down from
Dover Street. There was a small enclosed yard at the back of the
premises. That was approached by
three steps down from the lobby or side bar. There was no other entrance
to the yard, which was divided
from the next door by a wall only five feet high. The nearest licensed
house was the Granville, in Dover
Street, 79 yards away. The rateable value of that was £19. The Chequers
was 125 yards away, and it
belonged to the same firm of brewers. The rateable value of that was
£28. Next door to the Chequers was
the South Foreland, with a rateable value of £72. There were eleven
other on-licensed houses within a
radius of 150 yards, and most of them did a similar class of trade to
that house. He considered the
premises to be ill-adapted for the business and it was an awkward place
altogether. He had no doubt that
a very fair trade was being done, but he felt that if the licence was
taken away there would be ample
accommodation elsewhere. Cross-examined, Mr. Reeve said the house was easy of police supervision.
It had been conducted in a
proper manner. There had been no complaint against the house. There had
only been two transfers
during the last thirteen years. The premises were ill-adapted for the
business, and did not seem to be the
class one would wish for a public house. The front bar was very stuffy. Mr. Hartley said he had held the licence during the last five years. His
average for the last three years for
the spirit trade was 112 gallons. The Homing Pigeon Society and the
Wednesday Social Club met at his
house. He did a good trade and wanted to keep on the house. He was
making a good living. Mr. Leney said the average trade for beer during the last three years
was 325½ barrels. In 1912 the trade
went up to 343 barrels from 325. It was, therefore, an increasing trade. Mr. Drake, for the owners, contended that the two houses belonging to
Messrs. Leney should not be sent
to the compensation authority. His chief and only objection to that
course being adopted was that both
were doing a considerable trade, one over five barrels a week, and the
other just on five barrels. If a
licensee was doing five barrels a week, in addition to his spirits, it
showed there was a necessity for the
house in the district. The Magistrates retired, and on their return the Chairman announced that
the licence would be renewed. |
From the Folkestone Herald 15 March 1913.
Adjourned Licensing Sessions.
The adjourned Annual Folkestone Licensing Sessions were held at the
Police Court on Monday, when the
licences of the seven houses deferred at the Annual General Sessions
came up for hearing. Mr. E.T.
Ward was in the chair, and he was supported by Mr. W.G. Herbert, Lieut.
Colonel C.J. Hamilton, Mr. J.
Stainer, Mr. R.J. Linton, Mr. G. Boyd, Alderman C. Jenner, Captain
Chamier, Mr. J.J. Giles, Councillor
W.J. Harrison, Mr. E.T. Morrison and Councillor A. Stace.
The Oddfellows.
Mr. B.C. Drake represented the owners, Messrs. Leney and Co. The Chief Constable stated that the present licensee of the house was
Mr. A. Hartley, who obtained a
transfer in 1908. The rateable value was £24, and the registered owners
were Messrs. Leney and Co.,
Dover. The house was situated in Dover Street, at the corner of Saffrons
Place. The front entrance in
Dover Street was approached by five steps, which opened into the front
bar. There was a side entrance
from Saffrons Place, which opened into a lobby or side bar, and from
this lobby there was a tap room
overlooking the back yard. On the first floor, approached by stairs from
the lobby, was a side bar or club
room in front, 15ft. by 12ft., and another one behind 11ft 10ins. by
8ft. 10 ins., with a movable partition,
so that they could be thrown into one room. The living room of the
licensee was in the basement. The
entrance to it from the passage was down five steps from Dover Street,
near the front bar of the house.
There was a small enclosed yard at the back of the premises, and a w.c.
This was approached by three
steps down from the lobby or side bar. There was no other entrance to
the yard, which was divided from
the next door by a wall only 5ft. high. The nearest license house was
the Granville, in Dover Street, 79
yards away, and the rateable value of that house was £19. The Chequers
was at the other end of Dover
Street, 125 yards away, and belonged to the same firm of brewers. The
rateable value of the Chequers
was £28. Next door to the Chequers was the South Foreland, with a
rateable value of £72. There were
eleven other licensed houses within a radius of 150 yards, and most of
them were doing a similar class
trade. He considered the premises to be ill-adapted for the business; an
awkward place altogether. Cross-examined by Mr. Drake, witness stated that the house was easy to
supervise by the police, and
there had been only two transfers during the last twelve years. Mr. Hartley stated that he had held the licence for five years, and his
average spirit trade had been 112
gallons for the last three years. Two clubs were connected with the
house, a pigeon society and a social
club. He made a good living there. Cross-examined by the Chief Constable, witness stated that the fact of
his having been summoned for not
paying his rates at different times was not due to bad trade. It was
simply that he had neglected to pay
them. Mr. C. Leney stated that the average barrelage for the last three years
had been 325½ barrels, about 6½
barrels per week. The trade was increasing. He had never heard anything
about the structural difficulties
before. The house came into their possession thirty years ago. Mr. B.C. Drake briefly suggested to the Magistrates that these houses
should not be sent to Canterbury
Quarter Sessions. Both the houses were doing a considerable trade, and
the tenants were making a fair
living, showing that
there was a necessity for the houses in the district. The Magistrates retired for a period to consider their decisions. On
their return the Chairman said that
the Oddfellows licence was renewed. Oddfellows Inn 1915 - 1919. |
From the Folkestone Herald 13 February 1915.
Friday, February 12th: Before Mr. E.T. Ward, Mr. R.J. Linton, and Mr.
J.J. Giles.
An application for the temporary transfer of the Oddfellows Inn, Dover
Street, from Mr. Harper to Mr.
Charles Marsh was granted. |
From the Folkestone Express 27 November 1915.
Local News
At a sitting of the Folkestone Bench on Wednesday, before E.T. Ward
Esq., and other Magistrates, Mr.
Collar, on behalf of the owners, Messrs. Leney and Co., submitted plans
of proposed alterations to the
Oddfellows, Dover Street. These were passed by the majority of the
Bench, Councillor G. Boyd voting
against. |
From the Folkestone Herald 27 November 1915.
Wednesday, November 24th: Before Mr. E.T. Ward, Lieut. Col. R.J. Fynmore,
Mr. G.I. Swoffer, Mr. R.J.
Linton, Councillor G. Boyd, Councillor W.J. Harrison, Mr. E.T. Morrison,
and Col. G.P. Owen. The Bench passed plans for slight alterations of the Oddfellows Inn,
Dover Street. Councillor G. Boyd
voted against the application. |
From the Folkestone Express 9 February 1924.
Annual Licensing Sessions.
Wednesday, February 6th: Before Alderman R.G. Wood, Dr. W.J. Tyson, Miss
Weston, Miss Hunt, the
Rev. Epworth Thompson, Alderman Pepper, Col. Owen, Col. Broome-Giles,
Messrs. G.I. Swoffer, G.
Boyd, A. Stace, W. Hollands, E.T. Morrison, J.H. Blamey, and W.R.
Boughton. The Chief Constable (Mr. A.S. Beesley) presented his report as follows:
I have the honour to report for
your information that there are at present within your jurisdiction 114
premises licensed for the sale of
intoxicating liquor, and taking the population of the Borough according
to the last Census this gives an
average of one licensed house to every 329 persons. The following are
particulars of the licensed
premises: Full licences 71; beer on 7; beer off 6; beer and spirit
dealers 13; grocers, etc., off 6;
confectioners wine on 3; chemists wine off 4; cider and sweets off 1;
Total 114 (81 on and 33 off). Fifteen
of the licences have been transferred during the year. Four occasional
licences have been granted to
licence holders to sell drink on special occasions elsewhere than on
their licensed premises, and 60
extensions of hours have been granted to licence holders when dinners,
etc., were being held on their
licensed premises. In no case has any abuse of the privilege been
reported. Six hotels and one restaurant
have authority under Section 3 of the Licensing Act, 1921, to supply
intoxicating liquor with meals for one
hour after 10 p.m. on weekdays, viz.: Metropole Hotel, Grand Hotel,
Majestic Hotel, Regina Hotel,
Esplanade Hotel, Royal Pavilion Hotel, and Central Cafe. During the year
ended 31st December, 1923, 26
persons (21 males and 5 females) were proceeded against for drunkenness;
16 were convicted and 10
discharged after being cautioned by the Bench. Of those proceeded
against, 8 were residents of the
Borough, 5 were soldiers, 10 were of no fixed abode, and 3 were
non-residents. This is an increase of
one as compared with the number proceeded against last year, when 25
persons (16 males and 9
females) were proceeded against, of whom 16 were convicted and 9
discharged. The permitted hours, as
allowed by the Licensing Act, 1921, have been fixed by the Licensing
Justices for the Borough of
Folkestone as under: On weekdays from 10.30 a.m. to 2.30 p.m. and from 6
p.m. to 10 p.m. On Sundays
from 12 noon to 2 p.m. and from 7 p.m. to 10 p.m. Eleven clubs where
intoxicating liquor is supplied are
registered under the Act. All the licensed premises have been
periodically visited at irregular intervals by
my officers during the year to see that the same are being conducted in
a satisfactory manner, and I am
pleased to report that with few exceptions no adverse reports have been
submitted to me. There are 28
premises licensed for music and dancing and one for public billiard
playing. During the year two
licensees have been proceeded against for breaches of the Intoxicating
Liquor Laws, viz.: (1) 15 June 23
Henry William Cork, George the Third, Fenchurch Street, permitting
intoxicating liquor to be consumed
on his licensed premises during non-permitted hours; the case was
withdrawn upon my application to
the Bench. (2) 7 September 23 Alfred John Cope, Rose Hotel, Rendezvous Street,
failing to have his name and
expression of business for which the licence was granted affixed to the
premises; fined 10s. On 20th
October, 1923, Michael Ivory, of the Bouverie Hotel, Bouverie Road, was
convicted and fined £1 at
Newport, Isle of Wight, for consuming intoxicating liquor on licensed
premises during restricted hours. I
beg to report that in my opinion there is still a redundancy of licensed
premises on the older portion of
the Borough. Observation has been kept, and it would appear that very
unequal trade is done between house and house in the same neighbourhood. Three houses, viz.: The Oddfellows, Dover Street, The
Belle Vue, St. John's Street, The Richmond Tavern, Richmond Street,
according to reports received, are
doing the least trade in the area referred to, and I have no hesitation
in saying that they are redundant to
the needs of the public, and I accordingly recommend that the licence of
each house be referred back for
your consideration at the adjourned meeting. I have to express my
appreciation of the fairness and
courtesy extended to me by the Bench during my first year of office, and
also for the able assistance I
have received from your Clerk, Mr. John Andrew. The Chairman said they were especially pleased, it being the Chief
Constable's first year there, that he
was in a position to present such a good report. The members of the
Licensing Authority were very
gratified that the report was so good. They were of opinion that such a
good report must point to the fact
that the licence holders had been careful during the past year to see
that the law had been carried out
and adhered to on every possible occasion. Proceedings had only been
taken against two licence
holders, and they were reminded that in one instance the Chief constable
withdrew the summonses, and
in the other case the offence was of a technical nature. Then with
regard to the cases of drunkenness,
out of the 16 convictions only eight of them were residents of the
Borough. When they considered the
population of Folkestone and that Folkestone was a port, with a fishing
quarter, and with a military
district adjoining, the Magistrates thought it spoke well for the
community. They knew the community of
Folkestone was very sober, but it only required a few indiscreet persons
to spoil their record. They were
glad to know that those few indiscreet persons had exercised great
discretion during the past year, and
they hoped the number would not be increased during the present year. On
behalf of the Bench he
offered his congratulations to the licence holders and the general
public, who had enabled the Chief
Constable to present such an excellent report. The Justices had given
full consideration to the question
of the renewal of those houses specifically mentioned with regard to
redundancy, and they had decided
to put back the renewal of those licences for consideration at the
adjourned meeting, and they directed
the Chief Constable to cause opposition to their renewal. As proceedings
were also pending against the
Prince of Wales Inn for alleged breaches of the Licensing Act that
licence would not be renewed, but
would be put back to the adjourned meeting also. The question of the
renewal of the licences of the Rose
Hotel and the George the Third had also been considered, and they would
be renewed that day. All the
other licences would also be renewed. |
Folkestone Herald 9 February 1924.
Annual Licensing Sessions
Wednesday, February 6th: Before Alderman R.G. Wood, Dr. W.J. Tyson, Mr.
G.I. Swoffer, Mr. G. Boyd,
Mr. E.T. Morrison, Colonel G.P. Owen, Mr. A. Stace, Alderman A.E.
Pepper, the Rev. H. Epworth
Thompson, Mr. W.R. Boughton, Councillor W. Hollands, Colonel P.
Broome-Giles, Miss A.M. Hunt, and
Miss E.I. Weston. The Chief Constable (Mr. A.S. Beesley) read his report (for details see
Folkestone Express). The Chairman said they had heard the report of the Chief Constable, and
they were especially glad, it
being his first year, for him to be in a position for him to present
such a good report at this annual
licensing meeting. He did not think it required many words from him,
beyond saying that the members of
the licensing authority were very grateful that the report was so good,
and they were all of opinion that
having such a good result must point to the fact that the licence
holders had been careful during the past
year to see that the law was carried out and adhered to on all possible
occasions. Proceedings had only
been taken against two licence holders, and they were reminded in one
case that the Chief constable
withdrew the summons, and the other case was of a technical nature. He
thought they would agree with
him that neither of these charges could have been of a serious nature.
With regard to the convictions for
drunkenness, they had heard that out of sixteen offenders only eight
were residents of the borough. When they considered the population of Folkestone and further that the
town was a port, with a fishing
quarter, and had a military camp close at hand, to know that only eight
of the offenders were residents
spoke very well, he thought, for the community. (Hear, hear) The
community as a whole was a very sober
one in Folkestone. It only required a few indiscreet persons to spoil
their record, and they were glad to
know that those few indiscreet persons had exercised great discretion
during the past twelve months,
and they hoped that the number of offenders would not be increased
during the coming year. They
offered their congratulations to the licence holders and the general
public, who had undoubtedly
assisted the Chief Constable to present such an excellent report as they
had had that morning. The
Bench felt that the question of the renewal of the licences of the
"Oddfellows Inn," the "Belle Vue," and the
"Richmond Tavern" should have further consideration on the grounds of
redundancy, and therefore they
would put back the licensing of these houses to the adjourned sessions.
They also directed the Chief
Constable to give opposition to the renewals on the ground stated. The
licence of the "Prince of Wales,"
against which proceedings were pending, would also be put back. The "Rose
Hotel" and the "George" the
Third Inn had also been considered, and in these cases the licences
would be renewed that day.
Therefore, with the exception of the three houses mentioned on the
grounds of redundancy, and the one
against which proceedings were pending, all the other licences would be
renewed that day. |
Friday, February 8th 1924.
Before Mr. G.I. Swoffer and other Magistrates.
William Spearpoint was charged with being drunk on licensed premises.
Inspector Pittock said at 8.30 on Thursday evening he was in the private
bar of the "Oddfellows Inn," Dover
Street, when defendant came in and asked for a drink. The landlord
refused to serve him and requested
him to leave. He followed defendant and told him to go home. He lost
sight of the prisoner, and next saw
him when in the Jubilee Inn, where he was seated facing the bar. He
called for a drink, but before
defendant could be served he had told him to leave the premises. He
arrested him and took him to the
police station.
Prisoner, who said he was very sorry it had happened, was discharged.
Mr. MacKay, the licensee of the Jubilee Inn, was called before the
Magistrates, the Chairman saying that
they had sent for him to caution him and others. Prisoner was drunk on
his premises, and he ought to
have seen that he was removed from there at once. It was his duty to do
so. He should be more careful in
the future.
Mr. MacKay said that he did not have time to turn the prisoner out
before Inspector Pittock came in.
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Folkestone Express 1 March 1924.
Adjourned Licensing Sessions.
Wednesday, February 27th: Before Dr. W.J. Tyson and other Magistrates.
The Magistrates considered the opposition of Mr. Beesley to the renewal
of the licences of the
"Oddfellows Inn," Dover Street, the "Richmond Tavern," and the "Belle Vue" on
the ground of redundancy. Mr. Rutley Mowll appeared in the cases of the
"Oddfellows Inn" and the
"Richmond Tavern," both of which
are owned by Messrs. Leney and Co., of Dover, and the respective
licensees, Mr. G. A. Woodley and Mr.
A. Ingleton, and Mr. G. W. Haines appeared for Messrs. Mackeson and Co.,
the owners, and Mr. F. J.
Taylor, the licensee, of the "Belle Vue Inn." Evidence was given by Mr. Beesley and Inspector Pittock to the effect
that the houses were unnecessary
for the needs of the district, and the latter gave evidence as to the
result of his observations regarding the
trade done at the three houses compared with the other houses in the
district.
The Magistrates decided to renew the licence of the "Richmond Tavern," but
referred the other two houses
to the Compensation Authority at Canterbury. |
Folkestone Herald 1 March 1924.
Adjourned Licensing Sessions.
Wednesday, February 27th: Before Dr. W.J. Tyson, Mr. G. Boyd, Mr. A.
Stace, Mr. G.I. Swoffer, Colonel
G.P. Owen, Mr. E.T. Morrison, Mr. J. Blamey, the Rev. H. Epworth
Thompson, and Miss A.M. Hunt.
The Chief Constable (Mr. A.S. Beesley) opposed the renewal of the
licences of the "Oddfellows Inn," Dover
Street, the "Richmond Tavern," Richmond Street, and the "Bellevue Hotel,"
St. John's Street on the ground
of redundancy.
The "Oddfellows Inn."
The case of the "Oddfellows Inn" was taken first. Mr. Rutley Mowll
appeared on behalf of the licensee.
The Chief Constable, in the witness box, stated that he put in an
ordnance survey map of the congested
area. The population of the borough, according to the Census in 1921,
was 37,511. There was one on
licence to every 814 inhabitants, and there was one licence to every 329
persons. The west end of the
borough was almost entirely residential. With the exception of four
large hotels there were only twenty
one on licences. This comprised half the area of the town and two fifths
of the population of the town. In
the congested area there were 854 houses, and the population was 4,270.
There were twenty one on
licences, and one on licence to every 135 persons and every thirty
houses. The "Oddfellows Inn" was an
old on fully licensed house, situated in Dover Street at the corner of Saffrons Place within the congested
area. The present licensee was Mr. Clement Augustus Woodley, who
obtained the transfer on July 4th,
1923. The two previous transfers were obtained in the years 1908 and
1915. The registered owners were
Alfred Leney and Company (of Dover), and the annual value of the house
was £24. The nearest licensed
house was the Granville, in Dover Street, which was 79 yards away. The
rateable value of this house was
£24 10s., and within twenty yards was the Druids' Club, which had a
membership of 914. There was also
the George III, in Fenchurch Street, of a rateable value of £28; it was
only 120 yards away. Then there was
the Star and Garter beerhouse (rateable value £28), only 160 yards away.
There were fourteen fully
licensed houses and four on beerhouses within 200 yards of the house in
question. From observation
kept, the three houses named did a superior trade to the "Oddfellows,"
catering for a like class of
customers. He considered that there was ample accommodation in the
immediate neighbourhood for the
public if this licence was not renewed. In his opinion the licence was
unnecessary for the
accommodation of the public.
Cross-examined by Mr. Mowll, witness said the house was kept by an
ex-policeman. He conducted the
house admirably, and to the satisfaction of the police. It was a well
kept house. The renewal of the
licence was considered by the Magistrates in 1913, when it was also
opposed on the grounds of
redundancy. On that occasion the licence was renewed by the Magistrates.
Inspector Pittock said he kept observation on the "Oddfellows Inn." He
started doing so on the 19th
January and he visited the house practically daily until February 22nd.
He also visited other houses in the
immediate vicinity. He had prepared a comparative table of the trade of
the "Oddfellows" and the other
houses. During seventeen visits to the "Oddfellows" the total number of
customers was 45; at the Granville
173; at the George III 375; and at the Star and Garter 121. The average
attendance was 2.6 at the
"Oddfellows," at the Granville 13.3, George III 28.81, and the Star and
Garter 7.5. With one exception, the
visits were made in the evening. All the houses were in a working class
locality. There had been a
considerable fall in the number of customers to the house in question
during the past eighteen months.
On the 24th of January when he went to the house the licensee said
“Hello. What are you after? This
redundancy business?” He replied “I am just having a look round”. He
then said “From what I can see
about it this house could well be done without; there is very little
trade being done now”. Witness said “I
think your complaint is pretty general”.
By Mr. Mowll: His visits were not carried out in uniform.
George Parks Wood, a representative for A. Leney and Company, owners of
the house, put in the trade
as revealed by the books of his firm from the year 1912 to the present
time. He was not able to give any
figures with regard to the sale of spirits. The number of barrels of
beer (36 gallons each) supplied in 1912
was 342, and in 1923 146. There had been a falling off in trade since
the war.
Mr. Mowll quoted figures denoting a gradual decrease in the amount of
beer brewed in England and
Wales since 1921.
Mr. Wood said that his firm desired that the licence should be renewed.
The Bench retired, and upon their return the Chairman said they had
decided that the licence of the
"Richmond Tavern" should be renewed, but with regard to the "Bellevue Hotel"
and the "Oddfellows Inn," they
would be referred to the compensation authorities.
The licences of the "Oddfellows Inn" and the "Bellevue Hotel" were
provisionally renewed.
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Folkestone Herald 9 August 1924.
Local News.
The East Kent Compensation Authority, sitting at St. Augustines,
Canterbury, on the 1st instant, had
before them the question of the renewal of the licences of the
"Oddfellows," Dover Street, and the "Bellevue
Hotel," St. John's Street, Folkestone, refused by the local Justices on
the ground of redundancy. Mr. W. A.
Wardley, instructed by Mr. C. Rootes, appeared in support of the
Justices' refusal to renew, and Mr. L. S.
Fletcher, instructed by Mr. Geo. W. Haines, appeared in support of the
renewal of the licence of the
"Bellevue Hotel." In the result the Compensation Authority decided not to
renew the licence, and as the
owners of the "Oddfellows" did not contest the decision of the local
Justices with regard to that house,
both licences will cease to exist on payment of compensation in a few
weeks' time.
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From the Folkestone Express 22 November 1924.
Local News
A meeting of the East Kent Compensation Authority was held at the
Sessions House, Longport Street, Canterbury, on Monday, to approve the awards agreed as regards houses
which had been referred for compensation. Lord Fitzwalter was in the chair. The following were the
awards: "Oddfellows," Dover Street, Folkestone, £1,525 - £1.314 1s. 1d. to Messrs. Alfred Leney and
Co. Ltd., of Dover, and £210 18s.
11d. to Clement Augustus Woodley, the tenant; "Belle Vue Hotel," St. John's Street, Folkestone, £1,320 -
£1,071 18s. 6d. to Messrs. Mackeson and Co. Ltd., and £248 1s. 6d. to
Frederick John Taylor, the tenant.
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Whitstable Times and Herne Bay Herald, 29 November 1924.
Compensation for extinguished licences.
A meeting of the East Kent Compensation Authority was held at the Sessions House, Longport Street, Canterbury on November 17th to approve
the awards agreed as regards three houses which have been referred for
compensation. Lord FitzWalter presided and was supported by Messrs. W. A. Lochee, C.
E. Bass, N. A. Poole, A.G. Iggulden, C. Igglesden, and A. H. Godfrey. "Odd Fellows," Dover Street, Folkestone (publican's,) £1,525 - £1,314
1s. 1d. to Messrs. Alfred Leney and Co., Ltd., Dover, and £210 18s. and
11d. to Clement Augustus Woodley, the tenant. |
LICENSEE LIST
BEGENT William 1845-46
KEELER George 1846-50s
EARLE Richard Earle 1850s
NEAL Hannah 1851+ (wife of LV age 40 in 1851)
HARRIS James 1864-84
ADAMS Charles 1884-90
HARRIS James 1890
ADAMS Annie 1890-93
ADAMS Frederick 1893-1900
ADAMS Horace 1900-08
(age 42 in 1901)
HARTLEY Arthur 1908-15
MARSH Charles 1915-23
WOODLEY Clement 1923-3/Jan/25
From Bagshaw Directory 1847
From the Post Office Directory 1874
From the Post Office Directory 1882
From the Post Office Directory 1891
From the Kelly's Directory 1899
From the Post Office Directory 1903
From the Kelly's Directory 1903
From the Post Office Directory 1913
From the Post Office Directory 1922
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