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From the Dover Express and East Kent News, 4 February, 1910.
NEXT WEEK'S BREWSTER SESSIONS
FOUR DOVER PUBLIC HOUSES TO BE OPPOSED.
At the Dover Licensing Sessions, to be held on Monday, opposition
will be made to the renewal of the licenses of four Dover public-houses,
on the ground that they are not required by the needs of the
neighbourhood. The licenses to be opposed are the "Milestone,"
London Road, The "Old Fountain,"
Caroline Place; The "Pier Inn," Beach
Street; The "Beaconsfield Arms,"
Adrian Street.
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From the Dover Express and East Kent News, 11 February, 1910.
THE LICENSING SESSIONS
The Magistrates on Monday at the Dover Licensing Sessions sent four
public-houses for the East Kent Quarter Sessions with a view to removal
by compensation. The procedure of the court in these cases seems quite a
formal affair, and the question as to the desirability of the proposed
reference of the licences to have been gone into at the private meeting
of Magistrates. The evidence offered in Court certainly did not in two
instances point to the fact that the houses selected for opposition were
not required, although it was obvious that in the area there were more
houses than seemed necessary. But the whole matter was cut and dried,
and the Bench appeared to be quite ready to deal with the cases without
any evidence whatever, for the announcing the decision the Mayor
intimated that they had arrived at the decision as to the houses they
had decided to get rid of before the cases come into Court.
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From the Dover Express and East Kent News, 11 February, 1910.
DOVER LICENSING SESSIONS
FOUR HOUSES REPORTED FOR REMOVAL.
The annual Dover Licensing Sessions were held at the Town Hall on
Monday at midday. Four licenses were reported to Quarter Sessions for
removal under the Compensation Act. There were no applications for new
licenses, and the proceedings did not last more than one hour. The
following Magistrates were preset: The Mayor (Mr. Walter Emden), Messrs.
H. W. Thorpe, J. L. Bradley, E. Chitty, F. G. Wright, W. J. Barnes, and
T. A. Terson.
OLD LICENSES RENEWED.
The Mayor said that the applications for renewals of the existing
licenses (except the four houses in respect to such notice had been
given) in the borough and liberties would be granted. He was pleased to
say there were only two cases where reports had been made in regard to
houses. In both those cases they had been met by the house being placed
in other hands.
REFRESHMENT ROOMS.
Mr. Mowll applied for the compensation contribution in regard to the
refreshment rooms on the Admiralty Pier, the prince of Wales Pier, the
Promenade Pier, and Mr. Tritton's, to be reduced one-half as on previous
occasions. A similar application was made on behalf of the Harbour and
Town stations refreshment rooms. These were granted.
In regard to the Granville Restaurant, which had had a reduction of
contribution on previous occasions, no application was made.
TRANSFER DAYS.
The transfer days were arranged as follows; April 1st, July 3rd,
August 5th, October 7th, December 2nd, and January 20th.
ADJOURNED MEETING.
The adjourned Licensing meeting will be held at Broadstairs for
renewals on March 2nd, and at the Town Hall, Dover, on March 4th, to
hear applications for new-licenses.
SWAN HOTEL.
Mr. Mowll stated that the Swan Hotel had been held under two titles,
and the lease of one of them had fallen in. This necessitated some
alterations to the ground floor.
In reply to the Magistrate's Clerk, Mr. Mowll said that with the
cottage there were a certain number of extra bedrooms. There would be no
extra entrances.
THE MILESTONE.
In respect to this house, notices had been served of objections to
the license on the grounds of redundancy.
Mr. Rutley Mowll appeared for the brewers and the tenant.
Chief Constable Fox said; The Milestone is a fully licensed house
situated in London Road. The owners are Messrs. George Beer and Co.,
Canterbury. The present tenant is Edwin Stock. It was transferred to him
on the 7th August, 1908. There have been six changes in eight years. The
rateable value is gross £24, net £19 5s. The licensed house in the
immediate neighbourhood are the "Rose and Crown," 61 yards, the "Crown"
beer-house, 132 yards. The frontage of the house is 13ft. 8in., the
accommodation front bar, bar parlour, and private room on the ground
floor, the kitchen in the basement, and upstairs three bedrooms. It is
next to the Wesleyan Schools. I visited the house at 10.50 a.m. on
Thursday, 20th January, and found no customers. At 3.05 on Monday,
January 24th, I found no customers. At 9.30 a.m. on Saturday, January
29th, I found no customers. At 6.50 p.m. on Thursday, February 3rd, I
found one customer.
Cross-examined: Do you really consider your evidence as to the number
of customers is of value having regard to the carefully selected times
of visiting the house? - I visited it morning, afternoon, and evening.
But look at the time of the week; there is no visit to the house on
either Friday or Saturday afternoon or evening? - No, I did not know any
reason why I should go here then.
You did not go when there was any chance of wages being left? - I
went on Monday afternoon.
When people aught to be at work? - I visited it four times. I did not
think it fair to go there on a Saturday evening.
THE NEPTUNE HALL.
This was also a house to which objections to the renewal of the
license had been given on orders of the Magistrates on the ground of
redundancy.
Mr. Rutley Mowll appeared to represent the tenant.
The Chief Constable said that the Neptune Hall, Hawkesbury Street,
was fully licensed. The brewers were Messrs. Mackeson and Co. Hythe. The
tenant was Mr. G. H. Walker, and it was transferred to him on August
16th, 1895. The rateable value was £15 gross, £12 net. The licensed
houses in the immediate vicinity were the "Albion" 67 yards, the
"Railway Inn" 97 yards, the "Archliffe Fort Inn" back door 30 yards, the
front 50 yards, the "Endeavour," Bulwark Street, 93 yards, the "Hope,"
Council House Street, 120 yards, the "Granville Arms," Limekiln Street,
64 yards, the "Two Brewers," Limekiln Street, side door 66 yards, front
door 76 yards. Including the buffets at the Railway stations, there were
27 licensed houses in the area to the west of the railway. The total
number of houses in the area was 493, and 430 were occupied and 63
empty. Reckoning five persons to each house there were 2175 in the
district, or 80 persons to each license in the district. That included
children. In Hawkesbury Street there were 23 houses, including three
licensed premises. In the immediate neighbourhood a number of the house
had been demolished. The frontage was 14ft. 10in. The side of the house
abutted on to Bulwark Lane, and was 47ft. The accommodation was a
private bar in front, public bar, door at side entrance. private sitting
room, used also as a store room, and a kitchen on the ground floor.
Upstairs there was one sitting room, three bedrooms, and two rooms not
in use. At 11.20 on Thursday, 20th January, there was one customer, at
3.30 on January 24th no customers, at 9.30 a.m. on Monday, 31st, no
customers, at 7.20 p.m. on Thursday, February 3rd, two customers.
The Mayor: The house has been well conducted. - Oh yes, the man has
been there since 1895.
Mr. Mowll: In regard to these visits, you say, I see you gave him two
visits on Thursday? - Yes.
It so happens he has been keeping a little record against you, and on
Thursday there were 83 customers.
The Mayor: That is the whole day?
Mr. Mowll: yes, not at one time, of course.
The Mayor: You are not questioning his evidence?
Mr. Mowll: No. In regard to Superintendent Fox I should not question
his word. I was questioning the value of his evidence. On Monday, the
27th, when you say there were no customers when you went into the house
there were over 60 on that day. On the Thursday there were 34, on Friday
88, on Saturday 96, on Monday 63, on Tuesday 53, on Wednesday 46, on
Thursday 63, on Friday 76. You see from these figures that your little
test of visits at carefully selected times are hardly a fair criterion
of the trade being done.
Chief Constable Fox: I see yours increase as time went on; evidently
they knew something was coming off.
It is not a wise remark on your part, and it is not true. In regard
to the number of licensed premises in the district, if I remember
rightly you gave the same evidence in respect to the "Albion" last year?
- Yes; it would cost too much to close it.
When you made a statement as to the population in this immediate area
I think you will agree with me that the public houses in the Pier
district cater for people who live in other parts of the town and work
in the neighbourhood? - Yes, I have also included any military who live
near or pass through the district.
Mr. Mowll said that the basis taken, therefore was not of much value.
The Mayor: Surely the basis is to take so many people into each
house. The Superintendent has also stated that you must consider the
large number of working people who come down to the Pier district.
Mr. Mowll: This tenant has been in the house for 14 years?
The Chief Constable: Yes.
He has no other means of livelihood, and that means that he has
been able to get a living during that time? - I have his own words
for it; he says he has.
THE PIER INN.
This license was also opposed by direction of the Magistrates
on the grounds of redundancy.
Mr. Mowll said that he appeared on behalf of the licensee and Mr.
Gardiner, who was the immediate leaseholder for the premises.
Mr. Spyh appeared for the freeholder.
The Chief Constable said that the "Pier Inn" was a fully licensed
house, and also an early morning licensed house. The brewers were Mr. T.
H. Gardiner, trading as the Burton Beer Co., Herne Bay. The present
tenant was William Thomas Hunter, and it was transferred to him on 25th
January, 1907, and there had been six changes in ten years. The rateable
value was £30 gross and £24 net. The licensed house in the immediate
neighbourhood were the "Brussels," 19 yards, the "Terminus," 25 yards,
the "Sceptre," 73 yards, and the "Railway Bell," 128 yards, all in the
same street, There were also the Railway buffet, the "Rose and
Crown," 59 yards, the "Cinque Port Arms," 47 yards, the "Royal
Hotel,"106 yards, and the "Silver Lion," Middle Row, 68 yards. There
were also the "King's Head," the "Lord Warden," and the "Dover Castle
Hotels." This was one he mentioned in the case of the "Neptune Hall,"
Beach Street and a total number of 26 houses, including five licensed
premises. The frontage was 20ft. 6in., and the house had a side abutting
on to King's Passage of 26ft. 6in. The accommodation was front bar,
private bar at side, and private sitting room on the ground floor,
kitchen on the basement, and four bedrooms. He visited the house at
11.10 a.m. on Thursday, 20th January, and there were no customers; at
3.25 on Monday, 24th January, two customers; at 9.55 a.m. on Monday,
31st January, one customer; at 7.30 p.m., on Thursday, 3rd February, two
customers.
Cross-examined: This house has been occupied by the present licensee
three years? - Yes.
It has an early morning license? - Yes.
Why? - I do not know how many years it has had one.
Do you not know the object? - All the early morning licenses have
been granted for the supply of coffee to men working all night.
This is opposite the Railway station and the nearest house to the
Admiralty Pier? - Yes.
And it is frequently used by men coming from the boats? - Yes. It is
open at 3.30.
Mr. Mowll said: In regard to these cases I only want to say a few
words. I think the "Pier Inn" I can dismiss by saying that this man has
been there three years, that he gets up very early in the morning, and
he supplies what is undoubtedly a want - coffee, ad if people require
it, intoxicants for the passengers coming from the early morning boats,
and for the many men employed down there in the night traffic. One could
imagine that men working on the Admiralty Pier on the depth of winter
were exceedingly thankful to have a nice place like the "Pier Inn" where
they can go and have a cup of coffee or something else if they wish it,
or something in their coffee, as I believe some of then do after they
have done their work. In regard to the "Neptune Hall," I do think I
aught to offer you a few observations on that case. This man has held
the license for 14 years. It goes without saying that as it is a fact
that the man has got no other means of livelihood that he has been
making a living there, or he could not have held the license for those
many years. You will remember you had the case of the "Albion" before
you last year, and then I suggested to you that the "Albion" could not
very well be taken away because of the trade it was doing. You then
invited me to offer the name of another house. That invitation placed me
in a very invidious position, having various clients, and I could not
with justice to them make any suggestion to the house that should be
selected. The "Albion" was referred by you to the Quarter Sessions. But
it was renewed by the Quarter Sessions, no doubt on the grounds of the
very considerable trade it did. Now we come to this year. The "Albion"
is left standing, and the "Neptune Hall" is selected for extinction. I
think the very fact of the man having been there so long is some
indication of the "Neptune Hall" doing a very decent trade, and I ask
you to renew the licence. There seems to be a sort of feeling that it is
almost hopeless to ask the Dover Bench to renew licenses selected by
them for extinction. I hope it is not hopeless. It is rather
discouraging to the advocate to find that the remarks he makes so seldom
bear fruit, and that is particularly discouraging to me as being the
unfortunate advocate who usually appears in these cases that so little
success in this department falls to me. I can only say that it does seem
to me a very hard case that the tenant of the "Neptune Hall" is to have
his licence taken away from him after holding it for no less than 14
years, and therefore I ask you to renew the licenses.
THE BEACONSFIELD ARMS.
The licence of the "Beaconsfield Arms," Adrian Street, was also
opposed on the instructions of the Magistrates on the grounds of
redundancy.
No one appeared to legally represent the tenant or owner, but the
Secretary of the East Kent Brewers Company and the leaseholder
were in Court.
Chief Constable Fox said that the "Beaconsfield Arms" was a fully
licensed house situated in Adrian Street. The owners were the East Kent
Brewery Company, Sandwich, and the tenant was Horton Walter Moore, and
it was transferred to him on October 2nd, 1908. There had been five
changes in nine years. The rateable value was £40 gross, net £32. The
licensed houses in the immediate neighbourhood were the "Liberty," 11
yards, the "Trocadero," 29 yards, the "Prince Louis," 40 yards, the "New
Mogul," 51 yards, and the "Criterion," 74 yards. The frontage was 27ft.
The accommodation was the front bar, side bar, small kitchen on the
ground floor, and upstairs a club room used also as a dining room
(private), and there were four bedrooms. It was visited at 11.50 a.m. on
Thursday, January 20th, and there were two customers; at 3.50 p.m. on
Monday, January 24th, one customer; at 10.05 a.m. on Saturday, January
29th, no customers; at 7.47 p.m. on Thursday, February 3rd, three
customers.
The Secretary of the Brewery Company said that they were not asking
any questions.
THE DECISION.
The Mayor at once said: The Bench have come to the conclusion that
the four licenses ought to go forward. Of course we quite appreciate the
eloquence of our friend, Mr. Mowll, and if it were a question of dealing
with a matter from one of sentiment, it might have been decided
otherwise. We have a very difficult question to deal with, and the
decision we have come to must have regard to the question of redundancy
in the neighbourhood. before even this case went to Court great care was
taken that those houses which we really believed are redundant, are
those that come before the Court, and I think the Bench in this case are
of the opinion that all these houses are in that category, and that it
is important to do otherwise than to send the four cases to be dealt
with by the Quarter Sessions.
The licenses were provisionally renewed pending the decision of
Quarter Sessions.
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Whitstable Times and Herne Bay Herald 12 February 1910.
LICENSING SESSIONS.
The Licensing Sessions for the Sittingbourne Division were held on
Monday, before Messrs. R. G. E. Locke (chairman), G. H. Dean, R. Mercer,
T. E. Denson, H. Payne, C. Ingleton, J. Copland, W. R. Elgar, H. L.
Webb, and W. N. Rule, and Lieut.-Colonel Thompson, C.I.E.
The annual report of Superintendent Crowhurst mentioned that two
ale-houses and two beer-houses that had been referred for compensation
were closed on December 31st last. These houses were the "Jolly
Sailors," Milton; the "Criterion," Sheerness; the "Good Intent,"
Sheerness: and the "Sons of Sheppy," Minster.
In the past year 170 persons had been proceeded against for drunkenness,
42 being residents. This was a decrease of 17 compared with the return
of the previous year.
The Chairman remarked that the report was very satisfactory. The
Justices. he said, had been pursuing their policy of reducing the number
of licenses,. and had referred four houses to the Compensation
Authority. The four houses were the "White Hart" and "Sir John
Falstaff," Newington; and the "Jolly Gardeners" and the "Woodman's
Arms," Rainham. With these exceptions the whole of the licenses were
renewed.
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Whitstable Times and Herne Bay Herald 12 March 1910.
FOUR LICENCES TO BE REFERRED.
At the adjourned licensing sessions on Monday, Mr. R. G. E. Locke in the
chair, formal evidence as to accommodation and the class of trade was
given by Superintendent Crowhurst in the eases of the "White Hart" and
"Sir John Falstaff," Newington, and the "Jolly Gardeners" and "Woodman's
Arms," Rainham, the licences of which houses had not been renewed at the
Licensing Sessions a month ago. Mr. A. Booth Hearn (Chatham),
representing the owners (Messrs. Shepherd, Neame and Co.) and the tenant
of the "White Hart," Newington, applied for the renewal of the licence.
Formal application for renewal of the licences was also made in respect
of the other three houses. The Bench, however, decided to refer all four
licences to the Compensation Authority.
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From the Dover Express and East Kent News, 1 July, 1910.
MR. APPLETON RESIGNS THE LICENSED VICTUALLERS
CHAIRMANSHIP.
Mr. T. Appleton has tendered his resignation on the ground of
ill-health of the Dover Licensed Victuallers protection Society. A
meeting to receive the same, and, if necessary, elect a successor, will
be held shortly. Mr. J. P. Caspell's name will be proposed as Mr.
Appleton's successor, and Mr. T. Mills as Vice-Chairman.
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Whitstable Times and Herne Bay Herald 23 July 1910.
KENT PUBLIC HOUSE LICENCES ABOLISHED.
NINETEEN CONSIDERED UNNECESSARY.
The Compensation Authority for the Eastern Division of the County sat at
the Sessionse House, Longport, Canterbury, on Monday, to hear persons
interested in the licensed premises it was proposed to close. Lord
Harris presided, and there were also on the Bench Mr. F. H. Wilbee, Mr.
E. T. Ward, Mr. H. H. Owen, Mr. C. J. Burgees, Mr. T. G. Gillett, Mr. H.
Fitzwaiter Plumptre, Mr. R. G. E. Locke, Dr. Arthur Flint, Captain Down,
Mr. W. A. Lochee, Mr. J. H. Monins, and Mr. F. E. Burke.
The Chairman said all the applications for renewal of the licences had
been withdrawn except in three coses. In all the cases except the three,
those of the "Woodman’s Arms," Pudding Lane, Rainham, the "Wellington,"
Bench Street, Folkestone, and the "Walmer Castle Inn," 9, Adelaide
Gardens, Ramsgate, the applications for renewal would be refused and
referred for compensation. The licences not renewed were the following:-
SITTINGBOURNE DIVISION.
"While Hart," Newington, alehouse, licensee William Albert Skinner,
registered owners Shepherd. Neame and Co., Faversham; "Sir John
Falstaff," Newington, beer-house (ante 1869), licensee George Cherry,
owners Style and Winch, Ltd. Maidstone; "Jolly Gardeners," Lower Rainham,
beer-house, licensee William Francis Barnes, owners Style and Winch,
Ltd., Maidstone.
BOROUGH OF DEAL.
"Tally Ho" Middle Street, Deal, beer-house (ante 1869), licensee James
Edwin Redman, owners Gardner and Co., Ltd., Ash-next-Sandwich.
BOROUGH OF DOVER.
"Mile Stone," London Read, Dover, alehouse, licensee Edwin Stock, owners
George Beer and Co.. Star Brewery Canterbury, and Jease Hind
(mortgagee). Fletcher Gate, Nottingham; "Neptune's Hall." Hawksbury
Street, Dover, alehouse, licensee George Henry Walker, owners the Dover
Town Council; "Beaconsfield Arms," Adrian street, Dover, alehouse,
licensee Frederick Sawkins, owners the East Kent Brewery Co., Sandwich.
BOROUGH OF FAVERSHAM.
"Elephant and Castle," Water Lane, Faversham, alehouse, licensee George
Harris, owner Percy Beale Neame, Faversham; "Royal Standard." Court
Street, Faversham, alehouse, licensee, Frederick George Nicholls, owner
Percy Beale Neame, Faversham; "Waterman’s Arms," Pump Yard, Faversham,
alehouse, licensee William George Marsh, owner, Rigden and Co.,
Faversham; "Queen of Hearts," Conduit Street, Faversham,
beer-house,
licensee Louisa Brown, owners Thomas Ash and Co., Canterbury; "Mason’s
Arms,” West Street, Faversham, beer-house, licensee Henry Frank Macey,
owners Mrs. Mary Ann Brooks, 58. Preston Street, Faversham, and Percy
Beale Neame. Faversham.
BOROUGH OF MARGATE.
"Alexandra Tavern," 218. High Street, Margate, beer-house, licensee
Thomas James Adams, owners Messrs. Flint and Co., Canterbury; "Market
House." 4. Duke Street, Margate, alehouse, licensee James John Kemp,
owners Messrs. Woodham and Co., Rochester.
BOROUGH OF MARGATE.
"Alexandra Tavern," 218. High Street. Margate, beethouse, licensee
Thomas James Adams, owners Messrs. Flint and Co., Canterbury; "Market
House," 4. Duke Street. Margate, alehouse, licensee James John Kemp,
owners Messrs. Woodham and Co.. Rochester.
BOROUGH OF RAMSGATE.
"Pretoria Arms," 61. High Street, Ramsgate, beer-house, licensee Edward
Thompson, owners Russells’ Gravesend Brewery Co. Ltd. ; "Crispin Inn,"
25. Plains of Waterloo, Ramsgate, beer-house, licensee Charles Walter
Davis, owner William Miles. 26. Harold Road, Margate.
BOROUGH OF SANDWICH AND ITS LIBERTIES.
"Malt Shovel," Delph Street, Sandwich, beer-house, licensee Horace Price,
owners East Kent Brewery Co.. Ltd.. Sandwich.
BOROUGH OF SANDWICH AND ITS LIBERTIES.
"Military Tavern." Canada Road, Walmer, alehouse, licensee Henry Taylor,
owners Jesse Hind. Fletcher Gate. Nottingham, and Beer and Co.,
Canterbury.
THE WOODMAN’S ARMS. RAINHAM.
Mr. Boucher applied for the renewal of the licence of the "Woodman’s
Arms," Pudding Lane, Rainham, a beer-house of which Charles Alfred
Rayfield was the licensee and Messrs. E. Mason and Co.. brewers, of
Maidstone, the owners.
Mr. R. F. Gibson, barrister, who appeared on behalf of the local
licensing justices, said the "Woodman's Arms" was a tied house. It was
an ante 1869 beer-house. It was situated in Pudding Lane, thirty-seven
yards from the High Street, and in order to get to the "Woodman's Arms"
one had to pass other licensed houses. The premises were very small
having only a twenty-eight feet frontage and Pudding Lane was a
cul-de-sac. There were sixteen cottages in the alley. The house was
doing a decreasing trade. In 1907 it did one hundred barrels, in 1908 82
1/2 barrels, and in 1909 74 1/4 barrels.
Superintendent Crowhurst, of Sittingboume, said the tenant of the house
paid £18 a year rent. The population at the last census was 3,688 and
there were sixteen licensed houses, giving one licence to every 230
persons as against one licence to every 248 for the whole of the
Division. In his opinion the house was not wanted.
In cross-examination the Superintendent admitted that the previous
tenant was in the house fifteen years. Most of the licensed houses in
Rainham allowed a decreased trade because the brick making industry was
in a depressed state.
Mr. Brucher said there were signs of the brick making industry reviving
and with that the trade of the licensed houses would revive. Formerly
the "Woodman’s Arms" did a good trade when the trade of Rainham was in a
normal condition. Messrs. Mason and Co. were the only registered owners,
they having the house on lease from the trustees of the late Mr. Edward
Mason, of Maidstone.
Mr. Herbert Cooper, manager to Messrs. Mason and Co., gave evidence,
bearing out the statement made by Mr. Boucher.
The application for the renewal of the licence was refused.
THE WELLINGTON, BEACH STREET, FOLKESTONE.
Mr. Travers Humphrey, barrister, applied for the renewal of this
licence.
Mr. Mathew, barrister, who opposed on behalf of the local licensing
justices, said in the Harbour Street district, which wan the congested
area of Folkestone as regarded licensed houses, there were thirty-eight
licensed premises, which meant one licence to every 117 of the
inhabitants. while there was one on licence to every 144 persons. Taking
the rest of the borough there was one licence to every 249 of the
inhabitants as compared with one to every 117 in the congested area, and
one on licence to every 369 persons as compared with one to every 144 in
that particular area. The Committee would therefore see that in the
congested area there were something mere than double the licences. The
class of trade done at the house was poor. The trade has certainly
increased of late years, but that was owing to the fact that ten
licences had been taken away in the particular neighbourhood.
Chief Constable Harry Reeve gave evidence in support of Mr. Mathew's
statement and added that last year in the borough there were
ninety-three convictions for drunkenness, seventy-three coming from the
congested area.
Cross-examined Chief Constable Reeve admitted the house was in a good
position and that he had no complaint to make against the way it was
conducted. Within a hundred yards nine licensed houses had been closed
under the last Licensing Act and as a result the trade of this house had
increased. He knew that the house was the only one in the district
supplied by Messrs. Bushell, Watkins and Co., of Westerham. Some firms
of brewers had several houses in that neighbourhood. He believed the
tenant did well there in letting lodgings in the summer.
Detective Sergeant Burnston stated that one in the neighbourhood used
the house except hawkers and soldiers, and in in cross-examination he
said if the licence was taken away he had no doubt the customers of the
house would frequent other licensed houses in the neighbourhood.
Mr. Travers Humphrey submitted that it was no argument in favour of
refusing to renew the licence because the house catered to a particular
class of people. It was a well conducted house and there was no
suggestion that hawkers assembled there to do anything contrary to the
law. The strongest point in its favour was its location, it occupying
the best position in the neighbourhood. He submitted that the house was
required for it did a particular class of trade that was not done by any
other house. It also supplied the beer of a particular firm and if the
licence were taken away many people would not be able to obtain that
firm’s beer. As they had heard nine licences had been taken away in the
district and the result had been to increase the trade of the other
houses. He maintained that the argument in favour of the Licensing Act
to diminish drinking had not been the result in that particular
district.
Charles Coppin Skinner, the licensee of the house, gave evidence and
stated that the trade was increasing and that he wished to remain in the
house.
At this stage Mr. Fitswalter Plumptre presided in place of Lord Harris
who had to leave to fulfil another engagement.
Mr. Frank Newton, Secretary and Manager of Messrs. Bushell, Watkins, and
Smith, stated that the licence of the "Wellington" was in
existence in
the year 1700. In 1898 his firm spent £300 in putting the house in
thorough repair. The house was doing an increasing trade, in 1900 the
sales amounting to 235 barrels. For the past three years the house
showed an average of over five barrels a week, which was an exceedingly
good trade for a beer house.
After hearing other evidence.
The Committee decided to renew the licence.
THE WALMER CASTLE INN, 9, ADELAIDE GARDENS. RAMSGATE.
Mr. Shea applied for the renewal of this licence and explained that
after referring the house to that Committee the Ramsgate Licensing
Justices did not propose to offer any objection to the renewal of the
licence. It was a fully licensed house and was doing an increasing
trade. The licensee was Ernest Bayer and the owner Mr. James Fleet,
Broad Street, Ramsgate.
Mr. John W. Scarlett, valuer, of the firm of Messrs. Scarlett and
Goldsack, stated that the house was situated on the west cliff at
Ramsgate in the midst of several lodging houses. Last year the trade of
the house was 115 1/4 barrels and thirty barrels of beer sent out in
crates, making 145 barrels altogether. When the house came before the
Committee in 1905 the trade was only 66 barrels. He considered the house
met the wants of the people living in the small houses in the district.
Ernest Sayer, the tenant of the house, said his gross profit last year
amounted to between £175 and £200. He was perfectly satisfied with the
living he was getting.
The Committee renewed the licence.
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From the Whitstable Times and Herne Bay Herald, Saturday, 19 November, 1910.
EAST KENT LICENSING COMMITTEE. SUPPLEMENTAL MEETING.
The supplemental meeting of the East Kent Licensing Committee was held
at the Sessions House. Longport, Canterbury, on Tuesday. Lord Harris
presided, and was accompanied by the Earl of Guilford, Mr. H. Fitzwalter
Plumptre, Mr. Cobb (Valuer to the Committee), and others. The meeting
was held to consider claims of all interested in houses referred for
compensation.
In a large number of cases the amount of the total compensation and its
proportionment among the parties interested had been agreed upon and
these were taken first. The following total amounts of apportionments
were sanctioned:—
The "White Hart," Newington, an alehouse, owners Messrs. Shepherd, Neame
and Co., Faversham, tenant Mr. William Albert Skinner, in which the
agreed total amount was £809 10s., to be divided as follows: owners £684
10s., licensee £125.
The "Sir John Falstaff," Newington, ante 1869
beer-house, owners Messrs.
Style and Winch, Ltd., Maidstone, tenant Mr. George Cherry. Total amount
£205; divided, owners £150, tenant £55.
The "Jolly Gardeners," Lower Rainham, ante 1869
beer-house, owners
Messrs. Style and Winch, Ltd., tenant Mr. William Francis Barnes. Total
amount £1,029; divided, owners £919, tenant £110.
The "Woodman’s Arms," Pudding Lane, Rainham, ante 1869
beer-house, owners
Messrs. E. Mason and Co., Maidstone, tenant Mr. Charles Alfred Rayfield.
Total amount £560; divided, owners £253, tenant £10.
The "Tally Ho," Middle Street. Deal, ante 1869
beer-house, owners Messrs.
Gardner and Co.. Ltd., Ash-next-Sandwich, tenant Mr. James Edwin Redman.
Total amount £263; divides, owners £253. tenant £10.
The "Mile Stone," London Road, Dover, ale-house, owners Messrs. George
Beer and Co., Star Brewery, Canterbury, and Jesse Hind (mortgauee).
Fletcher Gate, Nottingham, tenant Mr. Edwin Stock. Total amount £821;
divided, owners £771, tenant £50.
The "Neptune’s Hall." Hawkesbury Street, Dover, alehouse, owners the
Dover Town Council, tenant Mr. George Henry Walker. Total amount £787
17s. 6d.; divided, owners £717 17s. 6d., tenant £70.
The "Beaconsfield Arms," Adrian Street, Dover, alehouse, owners the East
Kent Brewery Company, Sandwich, tenant Mr. Frederick Sawkins. Total
amount £764 5s.; divided, free-holder £141 5s., lessee £603, tenant £20.
The "Elephant and Castle," Water Lane, Faversham, alehouse, owner Mr.
Percy Beale Neame. Faversham, tenant Mr. George Harris. Total amount
£195; divided, owners £165, tenant £30.
The "Royal Standard," Court Street, Faversham, alehouse, owners Mr.
Percy Beale Neame, tenant Mr. Frederick George Nicholls. In this case
Mr. G. E. Boorman stated that the whole amount £345 would go to the
owner. Mr. Nicholls was a manager put in at a weekly wage, the former
tenant Mr. Jesse Wells leaving on account of ill-health. In reply to the
Chairman Mr. Boorman said the owner was dearly entitled to the whole of
the compensation.— The Clerk (Mr. Prosser) said a letter had been
received from Mr. Nicholls asking if he was entitled to anything.— Mr.
Boorman said Mr. Nicholls was only put in because in view of the house
being scheduled another tenant could not be got.— The Committee agreed
to the whole amount going to the owner.
The "Waterman’s Arms," Pump Yard, Faversham, alehouse, owners Messrs. Rigden and Co., Faversham, tenant Mr. William George Marsh. Total
amount, £355; divided, owners £295, tenant £60.
The "Mason’s Arms," West Street, Faversham,
beer-house, owners Mrs. Mary
Ann Brooks, 58, Preston Street, Faversham, and Mr. Percy Beale Neame,
tenant Mr. Henry Frank Matey. Total amount £291 2s. 6d.; divided,
freeholder £196 2s. 6d., lessee £25, tenant £70.
The "Alexandra Tavern." 218, High Street, Margate,
beer-house, owners
Messrs. Flint and Co., Canterbury, tenant Mr. Thomas James Adams. Total
amount £330 7s. 6d.; divided, owners £310 7s. 6d., tenant £20.
The "Market House," 4, Duke Street, Margate,
beer-house, owners Messrs.
Woodhams and Co., Rochester, and Mr. George Whitley, Hillside, Warren
Road, Chingford, tenant Mr. James John Kent. Total amount £742; divided,
freeholder £582, registered owner £160.— It was stated that there was no
tenant to compensate, the holder of the licence being put in at 8 weekly
wage. The owners bought out the previous tenant.
The "Pretoria Arms," 61, High Street, Ramsgate,
beer-house, owners
Messrs. Russells' Gravesend Brewery Co., Ltd., Gravesend, tenant Mr.
Edward Thompson. Total amount £89 which goes to the owners, the tenant
having assigned all his interests and claims to the owners.
The "Crispin Inn," 25, Plains of Waterloo, Ramsgate,
beer-house, owner
Mr. William Miles, 26, Harold Road, Margate, tenant Mr. Charles Walter
Davis. Total amount £830; divided, owners £400, lessee £359, licensee
£71.— A member of the licensing committee wrote that he thought the
compensation allowed in the absence of any special circumstances was
rather large for the class of house, but after hearing Mr. Cobb, the
official valuer, the Committee sanctioned the amounts agreed to.
The "Malt Shovel," Delph Street, Sandwich,
beer-house, owners the East
Kent Brewery Co., Ltd., Sandwich; tenant Mr. Horace Price. Total amount
£108, divided, owners £103, tenant £3.
The "Military Tavern," Canada Road. Walmer, alehouse, owners Mr. Jeese
Hind, Nottingham, and Messrs. Beer and Co., Canterbury, tenant Mr. Henry
Taylor. Total amount £707; divided, freeholder £200, lessees £437,
tenant £70.
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